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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ian n’ all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sadly and honestly without being rude, I’m
not interested in DAB, Community TV or anything to be honest at the moment as
we are having our own little ‘dead duck’ campaign.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We’re in the thick of it at the minute
fighting for our very existence and survival. I shall continue to read the
comments and please keep them coming to the message board<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Like I said though, we really really have
got some rather large fish to fry at the minute and it could be serious either
way.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’ll even give you the arguments if
you wish ?! as we have been one step ahead over the past six
months<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There are only two :-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Ofcom do nothing, as we have been proven to be doing nothing wrong
(trouble is, this opens a can a worms (possibly) (and fires up the pistons on
the Bandwaggon)
‘’ALL ABOARD !’’
(well 15 anyway)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Ofcom tell us that we have broken the Law ………………………..
we then cease and take our argument higher or we carry on and take our argument
higher. (in the case of number 2, clause 2, there could be a confrontation on
the cobbles.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Either way …………
the DCMS have caused a problem. The fact that a small group of volunteers, some
with epilepsy, some with learning difficulties, some with autism, some with hearing
problems, some excluded from society, unemployed, young people etc have dared
to challenge them would put a spanner in any carefully laid debacle.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>When all this garbage has eventually been
put to bed, then perhaps I will be able to join in with all the positive things
that are happening around the fratenity. Keep up the good work everyone …………..
we
are
believe it or not.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 26 October 2011 12:38<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> martin@martinsteers.co.uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> cma-l<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] The BBC to fund
DAB coverage up to 97%.</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Martin<br>
You appear unfortunately to be aligning with the Government and the Media
in assuming that "DAB" equals "Digital" in general and
"Digital Terrestrial Broadcast Radio" in oparticular.<br>
It doesn't.<br>
DAB is one particular format out of the six presently used in the distribution
of "radio" programming in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> - none of which is
compatible with any of the others.<br>
Please don't use the term "DAB" as synonymous with
"Digital".<br>
That would be the same as saying "Ford" when you mean any make of
motor car - not particularly accurate.<br>
DAB was chosen many years ago as the format for use in the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> and is now
seen in the Industry as a dead end - incapable of sensible expansion - and
rejected by almost every other broadcasting organisation on the planet.<br>
How on earth can I make this any clearer?<br>
DAB is a dead duck.<br>
The words "blue" and face" come to mind!<br>
<br>
The only real advantage of digital radio broadcasting is that it can supply
many more programme streams than an analogue system within a given amout of
electromagnetic spectrum.<br>
A subsequent abvantage is that it can produce usable quality audio from a
considerably lower received signal level.<br>
<br>
Your concept of "platform agnostic radio devices and EPG" is highly
laudable - execpt for one vital factor.<br>
Any receiver relies of the availablity of the information it is seeking.<br>
<br>
If we ignore Long Wave, Medium Wave and Short Wave reception:<br>
An FM receiver needs a minimum VHF Band II analogue signal level which is
already present over the vast majority of the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<br>
A current DAB receiver needs a considerably lower minimum VHF Band III
digital signal level which is present in a large number of the higher
population areas of the UK, but not available in large more remote
areas and is unlikely ever to be so.<br>
Wired domestic digital receivers rely on being hard-wired to a signal source or
fixed-point reception of a TV signal.<br>
An internet receiver needs either wired connection or
a minimum SHF digital signal level from a Wifi point which is
present only at certain specific higher population areas of the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<br>
A satellite receiver needs a minimum SHF digital signal level which
is only available within line-of-sight of a compatible satellite.<br>
Take away the signal and the receiver simply won't work.<br>
The user has to be conscious of the basic requirements of the equipment.<br>
<br>
We are all so used to our mobiles working anywhere and everywhere that we
assume everything else in modern communications technology will work in a
similar way.<br>
Sorry - it won't.<br>
That's the major problem we all have to face - and the politicians and the
media have to have drummed into them!<br>
Until that happens, all the blustering and posturing is simply worthless and
wasted hot air.<br>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#262626;
font-weight:bold'>Ian Hickling<br>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Partner</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>transplan <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font></b><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>From: martin@martinsteers.co.uk<br>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:03:30 +0100<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] The BBC to fund DAB coverage up to 97%.<br>
To: ian@transplan.uk.com<br>
CC: alan.coote@btinternet.com; cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
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We do need a plan for community radio that covers the diversity of the sector..
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>This can include a commitment for analogue stations as long
as the spectrum continues to have the support of the radio sector as a whole
and the government.. we should be engaged with the digital plan to encourage
larger commercial and BBC players of the spectrum to free it up for ultra local
radio stations / community radio..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>However we also need to be clear that there should be a
clear and fair route to digital (DAB) for community stations, either simulcast
or just DAB platform. I think we also need to push for greater support and
acceptance for fully fledged online only community radio...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>We should also be pushing for platform agnostic radio
devices and EPG.. eg it doesnt define stations by platform, and ignores that
completely and just show stations available.. Be that FM, DAB and Internet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Ian Hickling <<a
href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> Alan - I think that's just the message that the
media would just love to jump on.<br>
I have to disagree most strongly with your concept of the Analogue Dark
Ages.<br>
I'd far rather see us broadcasting in analogue that not at all - or in a
system which is already consigned to the technical dustbin by almost everyone
else on the planet.<br>
Once again - can I make the point that there is nothing magic or generic about
this word "Digital".<br>
We have to put in place a system which is compatible with the rest of the broadcasting
world so that receiver and vehicle manufacturers can have confidence in
producing equipment which is not purely devoted to the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> market.<br>
At the moment there is no sign of this happening.<br>
Sure - we should have a plan for "Digital" - whatever that may mean.<br>
But we haven't a platform yet to work on, so there's nothing
worthwhile moving to!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-weight:bold'>Ian Hickling<br>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Partner</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>transplan <st1:country-region
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>From: <a
href="mailto:alan.coote@btinternet.com">alan.coote@btinternet.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:41:39 +0100<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] The BBC to fund DAB coverage up to 97%.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#1F497D'>There is a real
danger of CR being left in the analogue dark ages if we don’t have a plan
for digital. </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font size=2
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</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#1F497D'>There’s surly a strong case for
establishing a dialogue with the BBC and commercial companies to ensure where
possible FM licenced stations have a route to digital?</span></font><font
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 24 October 2011 11:30 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] The BBC to fund
DAB coverage up to 97%.</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Clive.<br>
Agreed!<br>
See my posting just before I read this one.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color="#262626"
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font-weight:bold'>Ian Hickling<br>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>transplan <st1:country-region
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Subject: Re: The BBC to fund DAB coverage up to 97%.<br>
From: <a href="mailto:clive.glover@lineone.net">clive.glover@lineone.net</a><br>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:04:34 +0100<br>
CC: <a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a>; <a
href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:ian@transplan..uk.com">ian@transplan.uk.com</a><br>
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Ian <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>At the Digital Radio meetings which I have attended (along
with Jaqui and others) we have tried to get the Government and industry people
to make clear in their publicity etc what exactly they mean by
"digital" but they have always insisted on deliberately conflating
all forms of digital radio (by satellite, by cable, by FreeView as well as DAB)
as "digital". However when I very specifically asked the marketing
people about their plans to create a digital "tick" campaign to show
which radios in the shops were "digital" they first told me that
these would only be DAB ones, thus specifically excluding those (increasingly
common) which also include "Internet radio" (i.e. streaming). The
next meeting they contradicted that but I suspect the plan is still to try to
sell obsolete DAB sets as "digital" in line with the advertising
campaigns to promote "digital radios" (which always show Pure sets,
even on the BBC!).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>The RadioPlayer people have made little secret of their
plans to create a RP app for iPhones and Android, plus probably a version for
FreeView, Sky & FreeSat and - perhaps - a version for portable radios.
Internet streaming is already well on its way to becoming the main
"digital radio" format in practice even though purists will of course
point out it is not a broadcasting technology, but a communications
technology (just like Sky TV in the early days and look what has happened to
that!).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>One day - perhaps - someone in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Whitehall</st1:place></st1:City> will realise they are heading down
a cul de sac with a large brick wall at the end.....<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>On 21 Oct 2011, at 18:00, Ian Hickling wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>I didn't see the original
announcement.<br>
So - does this mean that the BBC and presumably H M Government still pushing
the ancient <st1:City w:st="on">Eureka</st1:City> 147 format - which is
effectively extinct except for the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>?<br>
Or is the term "DAB" used here meant to be a synonym for
"Digital Radio"?<br>
I think we need to have this clarified.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-weight:bold'>Ian Hickling<br>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Partner</span></font></b><font size=2
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>transplan <st1:country-region
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>From: <a
href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:clive.glover@lineone.net">clive.glover@lineone.net</a><br>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:23:11 +0100<br>
CC: <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] The BBC will fund taking DAB up to 97% coverage<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Exactly Clive.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma'>I note that the no doubt very carefully worded BBC
statement says "national DAB coverage". This almost certainly
deliberately excludes rolling out the "local" DAB coverage which the
commercial companies are also refusing to fund.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>So there is another subtle shift in policy here - the
"switchover" (as they still insist on calling it down in <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Whitehall</st1:place></st1:City>) will now be
triggered when digital listening on <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>national</span></b> services
reaches the appropriate limit. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>What's more, here in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region> not having a commercial
multiplex means also not having all the BBC National services.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>In areas with no commercial multiplex we get no BBC Radio <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region> on DAB
(really!) nor BBC Radio nan Gaidheal (the national Gaelic service). This is
because the single BBC DAB multiplex is already stretched to the max
capacity/min quality limits to carry the England-based services.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>In highly populous areas, such as Edinburgh and Glasgow,
the BBC gets round the problem by renting extra capacity for these services on
commercial multiplexes, but of course it can't do that anywhere in the
north/northwes of the UK where there are no commercial multiplexes..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>It also means we don't get the regional news opt-outs from
the national Radio <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region>
service that we currently get at peak times on FM.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>They could have sorted all this by using the northwest as a
pilot area for DAB+.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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