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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There is a real danger of CR being left in the analogue dark ages if we don’t have a plan for digital. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There’s surly a strong case for establishing a dialogue with the BBC and commercial companies to ensure where possible FM licenced stations have a route to digital?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alan Coote<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Business Development Director <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The Bay Radio<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Office 01202 580200<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Studio 01202 571028<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mobile 07801 518858<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Email <a href="mailto:alan.coote@thebayradio.com">alan.coote@thebayradio.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Web <a href="http://www.thebayradio.com/">www.thebayradio.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The Bay Radio, 25B Elliott Road, Bournemouth, BH11 8LQ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=100 height=103 id="Picture_x0020_0" src="cid:image001.gif@01CC931B.D2661FD0" alt="Description: The-Bay-logo-small.gif"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ian Hickling<br><b>Sent:</b> 24 October 2011 11:30 AM<br><b>To:</b> clive.glover@lineone.net<br><b>Cc:</b> cma-l<br><b>Subject:</b> [cma-l] The BBC to fund DAB coverage up to 97%.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Clive.<br>Agreed!<br>See my posting just before I read this one.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#262626'>Ian Hickling<br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Partner</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>transplan UK</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=stopSpelling></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject: Re: The BBC to fund DAB coverage up to 97%.<br>From: <a href="mailto:clive.glover@lineone.net">clive.glover@lineone.net</a><br>Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 11:04:34 +0100<br>CC: <a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a>; <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:ian@transplan.uk.com">ian@transplan.uk.com</a><br><br>Ian <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>At the Digital Radio meetings which I have attended (along with Jaqui and others) we have tried to get the Government and industry people to make clear in their publicity etc what exactly they mean by "digital" but they have always insisted on deliberately conflating all forms of digital radio (by satellite, by cable, by FreeView as well as DAB) as "digital". However when I very specifically asked the marketing people about their plans to create a digital "tick" campaign to show which radios in the shops were "digital" they first told me that these would only be DAB ones, thus specifically excluding those (increasingly common) which also include "Internet radio" (i.e. streaming). The next meeting they contradicted that but I suspect the plan is still to try to sell obsolete DAB sets as "digital" in line with the advertising campaigns to promote "digital radios" (which always show Pure sets, even on the BBC!).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The RadioPlayer people have made little secret of their plans to create a RP app for iPhones and Android, plus probably a version for FreeView, Sky & FreeSat and - perhaps - a version for portable radios. Internet streaming is already well on its way to becoming the main "digital radio" format in practice even though purists will of course point out it is not a broadcasting technology, but a communications technology (just like Sky TV in the early days and look what has happened to that!).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>One day - perhaps - someone in Whitehall will realise they are heading down a cul de sac with a large brick wall at the end.....<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Clive Glover<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>On 21 Oct 2011, at 18:00, Ian Hickling wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I didn't see the original announcement.<br>So - does this mean that the BBC and presumably H M Government still pushing the ancient Eureka 147 format - which is effectively extinct except for the UK?<br>Or is the term "DAB" used here meant to be a synonym for "Digital Radio"?<br>I think we need to have this clarified.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#262626'>Ian Hickling<br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Partner</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>transplan UK</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=ecxstopSpelling></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:<span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk">tlr@gairloch.co.uk</a><br>To:<span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:clive.glover@lineone.net">clive.glover@lineone.net</a><br>Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:23:11 +0100<br>CC:<span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] The BBC will fund taking DAB up to 97% coverage<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Exactly Clive.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I note that the no doubt very carefully worded BBC statement says "national DAB coverage". This almost certainly deliberately excludes rolling out the "local" DAB coverage which the commercial companies are also refusing to fund.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>So there is another subtle shift in policy here - the "switchover" (as they still insist on calling it down in Whitehall) will now be triggered when digital listening on<span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span><b>national</b><span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span>services reaches the appropriate limit. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>What's more, here in Scotland not having a commercial multiplex means also not having all the BBC National services.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>In areas with no commercial multiplex we get no BBC Radio Scotland on DAB (really!) nor BBC Radio nan Gaidheal (the national Gaelic service). This is because the single BBC DAB multiplex is already stretched to the max capacity/min quality limits to carry the England-based services.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>In highly populous areas, such as Edinburgh and Glasgow, the BBC gets round the problem by renting extra capacity for these services on commercial multiplexes, but of course it can't do that anywhere in the north/northwes of the UK where there are no commercial multiplexes.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>It also means we don't get the regional news opt-outs from the national Radio Scotland service that we currently get at peak times on FM.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>They could have sorted all this by using the northwest as a pilot area for DAB+.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>_______________________________________________ Reply -<span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span>The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association -<span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.commedia.org.uk</a><span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span>Twitter:<a href="http://twitter.com/community_media" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/community_media</a><span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation</a><span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span>Canstream Internet Radio & Video:<span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.canstream.co.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.canstream.co.uk/</a><span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span>_______________________________________________ Mailing list guidelines:<a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/" target="_blank">http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/</a>_______________________________________________ To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<span class=ecxapple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l" target="_blank">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>