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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ian n’ all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Firstly, I have no issue with someone
taking me to task in public (I recall, Phil, Phil, Phil, Bill, Rob, Jaqui all
at some time giving me a little ticking off) ……… Rhino skin,
broad shoulders, hard faced and all that jazz. No probs there. I am simply
trying to find a solution to our problem. On a bigger scale a solution to
others problems and on a massive scale a battle against a complete injustice.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don’t fully understand all of the
technical stuff, but, I have this thing in my head that until we have the money
to request a move half a mile up the hill then doing what we can without
causing others a problem is all I am trying to do. I am sticking up for
Canalside, our volunteers, our participants and our potential listeners. If I
didn’t, I would not be doing my job.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If I have to spend the rest of my life
moaning and complaining, arguing and sometimes being insulting, then that I
shall do, with no qualms or regret whatsoever. I can walk into any meeting, any
consultation or write on any message board with my head held high. I ain’t
done anything wrong. We have been treated differently to everyone else ‘bar’
15 …….. just because of where we come from and where we live’
……….. this is not acceptable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So, what I am basically saying is this,
all the ‘’I’m alright Jacks’’ in the fraternity
and on this message board can get stuffed as far as I’m concerned, we’ll
fight our own battles.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If we do get somewhere by ourselves, you
watch em’ all come crawling out of the woodwork.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We’re actually not interested now,
we are getting on with our plans and then we’ll wait for Ofcom and/or the
DCMS to fire the shot across our bows. All I will say is this, we don’t
want a fight, it doesn’t help the situation and it detracts from what we
are meant to be doing, however, our Canons are now loaded, prepared and ready
to fire back.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The rules that we shall be applying do not
break the Law that we have been true to for the last 4 years. They may claim
different and so the lines in the sand get drawn.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Furthermore, if the proverbial does hit
the fan, the rest can depend on luck ………….. if the man
in the wig is a person who is prepared to apply common sense and look at the
reasons for, the reasons why, check out the underdog, check out the history and
the trail he may sway the opposite way to what people are thinking.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We didn’t ask for this remember,
this could have been dealt with a long time ago and yet it still rumbles on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m signing off now ……………………..
possibly for good, until the time comes when I can write positive stuff instead
of as you and Phil Gibbons put it ‘’moaning’’
I argue that I am not moaning, I am fighting a worthy cause ………….
There is a difference ……….. a huge difference. We shall
continue that fight until this garbage has been removed from our doorstep.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On a final note, an e-mail went out today
/ yesterday ??? with reference to TV again …. I
think it was Phil Shepard who wrote something about the two sectors pulling
together on an advertising front …………. One thing wrong
with that again chappies ……… we’re left out in the cold
again.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nuff
said
Goodnight<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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Ian Hickling [mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 October 2011 14:18<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> office@ccr-fm.co.uk; Alan
Coote; cma-l<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> DCMS consultation
meetings on amendments to communityradio law</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Nick<br>
I'm going to do this in public, because we're all fed up with your moaning.<br>
No - actually - we do appreciate what you're saying.<br>
Let's get some facts into this.<br>
<br>
Firstly - about Key 103 - if it is that causing the problem.<br>
That's on 103,0 at 347 metres AOD and an antenna elevation of 40m with an
aggregate 4kW on Saddleworth Moor and you're on 102,8 with 25W at 153m AOD and
34m antenna elevation and an aggregate 48W at Bolligton - 27km due south
with a complete geological signal block anywhere to the east of you.<br>
103,0 is second adjacent to you, which providing you're both within
specification, means no part of your transmission envelopes overlap more
than at -60dB.<br>
That is one millionth of full power level.<br>
<br>
So - any cross-talk you're getting can only be attributed - forgive me for
being blunt - to the use of crap radio receivers.<br>
I'm sure you wouldn't want legislation introduced to allow for that?<br>
No fault of the rules, the broadcasters or of Ofcom.<br>
There is a possible solution of moving your frequency either one channel
further away from Key 103 or somewhere entirely different - but that's a much
bigger exercise as I'm sure you'll understand.<br>
<br>
Secondly - the so-called "crackle crackle hiss hiss crackle" is not
being generated by you or by them.<br>
It's your radio picking up other random signals which are of a level higher than
the wanted one.<br>
This may be because of low signal strength - or again the radio itself -
or more likely its aerial aystem.<br>
Again, not the fault of the rules, the broadcasters or of Ofcom.<br>
<br>
Thirdly - your idea of upping power by 1W at a time. Beside it being completely
outside any concept of engineering planning logic, it would do no
good at all. Power (allied with propagation format) gets you penetration;
height gets you range. So - to increase coverage area you'll need to
provide your antenna with a better view of its target. Therefore more
height - or an entirely new location. That's always assuming that you are
actually emitting your full ERP, which in itself may be part of the problem.<br>
<br>
Look - buy me a decent lunch and I'll spend a day with you looking at the
problem and I'll do you a Spectrum Audit Scan which will show just how near or
effective other broadcasters are. And I'll analyse your problem
crackle/hiss areas too.<br>
Then we might be able to come up with a good practical sound engineering solution.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma'>------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color="#262626"
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#262626;
font-weight:bold'>Ian Hickling<br>
</span></font></b><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Partner</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>transplan <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>From: office@ccr-fm.co.uk<br>
To: alan.coote@btinternet.com; cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 21:46:21 +0100<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to communityradio
law<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear All</span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Where is the Bay
?
hells bells ! if it is in the <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">North West</st1:place></st1:State> and on the highest building on
the highest hill with 100 watts power we’re gonna’ get swamped !
Canalside is also on 102.8fm
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The issue for me is the defence against
Commercial Radio and not Community. My idea has always been that we have enough
power for what we NEED and not what we want for a bit of luxury.</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We have got a radio station in this area
……….. we believe it to be Key 103 who come over us and
crackle crackle hiss hiss crackle us at various spots in Macclesfield
………. Regardless what the DCMS say or what Ofcom say (and they
can argue til the Cows come home) Macclesfield is OUR
Community, not Key 103’s or an imaginary 5km line drawn on a map.</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have always said the way to do it is
quite simple ………… not hard ….. but simple. One
doesn’t have to have a degree in mini screwdrivers and aerials. You place
one Herbert at the spot marked ‘X’
and you place another Herbert at the transmitter. The Herbert at the
transmitter is all the while on a mobile phone to another technical Herbert at
Ofcom. All three of us then tweak the power up by 1 watt at a time
……………. When we reach the point whereby Mr Crackle
and Mrs Hiss have left the building then we make one more phone call to another
Herbert at the Community Station near to us (for us it is <st1:place w:st="on">Chorley</st1:place>)
and see if it has affected their output.</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There is a chance that it may have done
slightly, so, they tweak theirs up by the same amount. </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The ironical thing about all of this is we
may have gone from 25 watts to 32 watts ??
!! that may be all it takes.</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>At least at the point
where us & them start havin’ a scrap on the
airwaves will not have shifted, but both of us at least won’t have the
Commercial Herberts coming over the top of us from TWO Digits away.</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This could all be done in two days
…………. Job done, shut up, goodnight Vienna ----- get on
with what we are supposed to be doing which is providing good community radio
for OUR Community ………….. unfortunately, all those
people in OUR Community in the hotspots of Macclesfield can’t listen to
us so they listen to the BBC or the Commercials because they have had something
taken away from them
!
it’s called DEMOCRATIC CHOICE !</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So, to conclude, the very foundations that
Community Radio was built on which are Fairness, Equality, Opportunity,
Accessibility, Choice and Democracy, if you throw into the mix the other
restrictions, the whole thing basically went tits-up for us in 2008 as we
started full-time, it remained tits-up for three years, and it’s still
tits-up now.</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Everyone can see it, everyone knows it and
yet the powers that be refuse to listen.</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Consultations are a waste of time if those
in the meeting don’t want to listen. How many times do we have to keep
regurgitating the same old arguments and points.</span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And so it goes on, and so do we, and so do
I ……………… on & on & on & on
&
on
this will continue to be the case until all this nonsense is brought to an end,
not forgetting trying to find ways around, up and over which is now in our
manifesto.</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards</span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Alan Coote<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 17 October 2011 18:17<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ian@transplan.uk.com; 'cma-l'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] DCMS
consultation meetings on amendments to communityradio law</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Hi Ian, Jaqui et al,</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Here’s my
evidence that Ofcom are not willing to help CR stations cover their intended
area. </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>It clearly state a
‘general policy’ with respect to output power and multi frequency. </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The response below
was received following the submission of an Arqiva researched report into
covering our existing designated area. Needless to say we were not impressed,
given that the technical report was comprehensive and evidenced. </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>FYI The Bay 102.8 TX
is located on the highest building (30m AGL) on the highest hill (62m ASL) in
the centre of our area – there is no better site! </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Yet - Read for
yourself…</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>“Dear Alan,</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I am writing with regard to your request
of 11 November, acknowledged on 17 November. [2010 – this shows how long
we had this issue] </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The contents of your report are
noted. You asked us to consider increasing your transmitter power to 100
Watts e.r.p., and for an additional frequency for a “fill-in”
transmitter. These requests have now been considered and I am sorry, but
we are not able to agree to either of them. </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The usual maximum effective radiated
power (e.r.p.) for community radio services is 25 Watts in the vertical plane
with an additional 25 Watts in the horizontal plane, if required. Your
request for a power increase to 100 Watts e.r.p. is outside this general <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>policy</span></b>, and for that reason we are not able
to agree to it.</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>With regard to a second frequency, as
stated below, our general <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>policy</span></b>
with regards to FM frequencies for community radio services is that we will
allocate one frequency per service, and we are therefore not able to agree to
your request for an additional frequency for your service. </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Regards,</span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=1 color=fuchsia face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:fuchsia;font-weight:bold'>::
Soo Williams</span></font></b><b><font size=1 color=red face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:red;font-weight:bold'><br>
</span></font></b><font size=1 color=gray face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:gray'>Manager, Community Radio and RSLs<br>
Direct line: 020 7783 4319<br>
</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#1F497D'><a
href="mailto:susan.williams@ofcom.org.uk"><b><font size=1 color=gray
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:gray;
font-weight:bold'>susan.williams@ofcom.org.uk</span></font></b></a></span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><br>
</span></font><b><font size=1 color=red face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:red;font-weight:bold'>:: Ofcom</span></font></b><b><font
size=1 color=purple face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:purple;font-weight:bold'><br>
</span></font></b><font size=1 color=gray face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:gray'>Riverside House<br>
2a <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Southwark Bridge Road</st1:address></st1:Street><br>
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">London</st1:place></st1:City> SE1 9HA<br>
020 7981 3000<br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:blue'><a href="http://www.ofcom.org.uk/"
target="_blank"><b><font size=1 color=gray face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:gray;font-weight:bold'>www.ofcom.org.uk</span></font></b></a></span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>“ </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 15 October 2011 10:22 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cma-l<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] DCMS consultation
meetings on amendments to community radio law</span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'><br>
Sorry - the "restriction" is not abritrary.<br>
Unless you can of course show me where it is enshrined in Law, conveyed by
Ofcom in writing, or expressed as such by Ofcom to any Applicant or
Licensee.<br>
I've never seen any of these instances, but I'm happy to be corrected.<br>
<br>
In technical terms of course, you can't stop radio signals from travelling more
than any specified distance.<br>
The way is could be expressed - but isn't - is by saying that there must be no
signal at a specific strength receivable under specific conditions at any point
further than 5km from the transmitter.<br>
Again, I have never seen this stipulated by Ofcom nor by the Radio Authority in
15 years as a general restriction - only in very specific cases where a
licensee is required to protect the MCA of an existing broadcaster.<br>
<br>
Please - let's deal in hard facts - not in conjecture or hearsay.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color="#262626"
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#262626;
font-weight:bold'>Ian Hickling<br>
</span></font></b><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Partner</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>transplan <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>From: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:35:27 +0100<br>
To: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community
radio law<br>
<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>From: Gary Jackson <<a
href="mailto:gary.jackson@skylinegold.co.uk">gary.jackson@skylinegold.co.uk</a>><br>
To: CMA-L <<a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a>><br>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:17:23 +0100<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>On 14/10/2011 15:34, Alan Coote wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Hi Ian et al, <br>
<br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>In simple terms, Ofcom says "Tell us
the Community you wish to cover - and how you propose doing it.<br>
If you look on Ofcom's published "TX Params", you'll see the stations
that have asked for and got much higher powers and sites. </span></i><br>
My direct experience is that this simply not true! <br>
<br>
Ofcom hide behind what they have called a ‘Policy’ to limit
CR to 25 Watts ERP. The restriction is real and affects many stations outside
of remote parts of <st1:country-region w:st="on">Wales</st1:country-region> and
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region>.
There are 21 stations which have great than 25W ERP. <br>
<br>
For the rest of us, the 5km limit is arbitrary and a nonsense. It should be
removed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>++<br>
<br>
Our experience is the same as Alan's. We had two people living well within the
5km radius. Both wrote to support our application to Ofcom to increase our
signal because neither could receive us.<br>
<br>
Our application was turned down flat<br>
<br>
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Gary</st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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