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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear All<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Where is the Bay
?
hells bells ! if it is in the <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">North West</st1:place></st1:State> and on the highest building on
the highest hill with 100 watts power we’re gonna’ get swamped !
Canalside is also on 102.8fm
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The issue for me is the defence against
Commercial Radio and not Community. My idea has always been that we have enough
power for what we NEED and not what we want for a bit of luxury.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We have got a radio station in this area ………..
we believe it to be Key 103 who come over us and crackle crackle hiss hiss
crackle us at various spots in Macclesfield ………. Regardless what
the DCMS say or what Ofcom say (and they can argue til the Cows come
home) Macclesfield is OUR Community, not Key 103’s
or an imaginary 5km line drawn on a map.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have always said the way to do it is
quite simple ………… not hard ….. but simple. One
doesn’t have to have a degree in mini screwdrivers and aerials. You place
one Herbert at the spot marked ‘X’
and you place another Herbert at the transmitter. The Herbert at the
transmitter is all the while on a mobile phone to another technical Herbert at
Ofcom. All three of us then tweak the power up by 1 watt at a time …………….
When we reach the point whereby Mr Crackle and Mrs Hiss have left the building
then we make one more phone call to another Herbert at the Community Station
near to us (for us it is <st1:place w:st="on">Chorley</st1:place>) and see if
it has affected their output.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There is a chance that it may have done
slightly, so, they tweak theirs up by the same amount. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The ironical thing about all of this is we
may have gone from 25 watts to 32 watts ??
!! that may be all it takes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>At least at the point
where us & them start havin’ a scrap on the
airwaves will not have shifted, but both of us at least won’t have the
Commercial Herberts coming over the top of us from TWO Digits away.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This could all be done in two days ………….
Job done, shut up, goodnight Vienna ----- get on with what we are supposed to
be doing which is providing good community radio for OUR Community …………..
unfortunately, all those people in OUR Community in the hotspots of
Macclesfield can’t listen to us so they listen to the BBC or the
Commercials because they have had something taken away from them
!
it’s called DEMOCRATIC CHOICE !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So, to conclude, the very foundations that
Community Radio was built on which are Fairness, Equality, Opportunity, Accessibility,
Choice and Democracy, if you throw into the mix the other restrictions, the
whole thing basically went tits-up for us in 2008 as we started full-time, it
remained tits-up for three years, and it’s still tits-up now.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Everyone can see it, everyone knows it and
yet the powers that be refuse to listen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Consultations are a waste of time if those
in the meeting don’t want to listen. How many times do we have to keep
regurgitating the same old arguments and points.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And so it goes on, and so do we, and so do
I ……………… on & on & on & on
& on
this will continue to be the case until all this nonsense is brought to an end,
not forgetting trying to find ways around, up and over which is now in our
manifesto.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Alan Coote<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 17 October 2011 18:17<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">ian@transplan.uk.com</st1:PersonName>;
'cma-l'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] DCMS
consultation meetings on amendments to communityradio law</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Hi Ian, Jaqui et al,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Here’s my
evidence that Ofcom are not willing to help CR stations cover their intended
area. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>It clearly state a
‘general policy’ with respect to output power and multi frequency. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The response below
was received following the submission of an Arqiva researched report into
covering our existing designated area. Needless to say we were not impressed,
given that the technical report was comprehensive and evidenced. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>FYI The Bay 102.8 TX
is located on the highest building (30m AGL) on the highest hill (62m ASL) in
the centre of our area – there is no better site! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Yet - Read for
yourself…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>“Dear Alan,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I am writing with regard to your request
of 11 November, acknowledged on 17 November. [2010 – this shows how long
we had this issue] <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The contents of your report are
noted. You asked us to consider increasing your transmitter power to 100
Watts e.r.p., and for an additional frequency for a “fill-in”
transmitter. These requests have now been considered and I am sorry, but
we are not able to agree to either of them. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The usual maximum effective radiated
power (e.r.p.) for community radio services is 25 Watts in the vertical plane
with an additional 25 Watts in the horizontal plane, if required. Your
request for a power increase to 100 Watts e.r.p. is outside this general <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>policy</span></b>, and for that reason we are not able
to agree to it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>With regard to a second frequency, as
stated below, our general <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>policy</span></b>
with regards to FM frequencies for community radio services is that we will
allocate one frequency per service, and we are therefore not able to agree to
your request for an additional frequency for your service. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=1 color=fuchsia face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:fuchsia;font-weight:bold'>::
Soo Williams</span></font></b><b><font size=1 color=red face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:red;font-weight:bold'><br>
</span></font></b><font size=1 color=gray face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:gray'>Manager, Community Radio and RSLs<br>
Direct line: 020 7783 4319<br>
</span></font><font color="#1f497d"><span style='color:#1F497D'><a
href="mailto:susan.williams@ofcom.org.uk"><b><font size=1 color=gray
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:gray;
font-weight:bold'>susan.williams@ofcom.org.uk</span></font></b></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'><br>
</span></font><b><font size=1 color=red face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:red;font-weight:bold'>:: Ofcom</span></font></b><b><font
size=1 color=purple face=Verdana><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;
color:purple;font-weight:bold'><br>
</span></font></b><font size=1 color=gray face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:gray'>Riverside House<br>
2a <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Southwark Bridge Road</st1:address></st1:Street><br>
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">London</st1:place></st1:City> SE1 9HA<br>
020 7981 3000<br>
</span></font><font color=blue><span style='color:blue'><a
href="http://www.ofcom.org.uk"><b><font size=1 color=gray face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:gray;font-weight:bold'>www.ofcom.org.uk</span></font></b></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>“ </span></font><font size=2
color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 15 October 2011 10:22 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cma-l<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] DCMS consultation
meetings on amendments to community radio law<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Sorry - the "restriction" is not abritrary.<br>
Unless you can of course show me where it is enshrined in Law, conveyed by
Ofcom in writing, or expressed as such by Ofcom to any Applicant or
Licensee.<br>
I've never seen any of these instances, but I'm happy to be corrected.<br>
<br>
In technical terms of course, you can't stop radio signals from travelling more
than any specified distance.<br>
The way is could be expressed - but isn't - is by saying that there must be no
signal at a specific strength receivable under specific conditions at any point
further than 5km from the transmitter.<br>
Again, I have never seen this stipulated by Ofcom nor by the Radio Authority in
15 years as a general restriction - only in very specific cases where a
licensee is required to protect the MCA of an existing broadcaster.<br>
<br>
Please - let's deal in hard facts - not in conjecture or hearsay.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color="#262626"
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#262626;
font-weight:bold'>Ian Hickling<br>
</span></font></b><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Partner</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>transplan <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma'>From: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:35:27 +0100<br>
To: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community
radio law<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>From: Gary Jackson <<a
href="mailto:gary.jackson@skylinegold.co.uk">gary.jackson@skylinegold.co.uk</a>><br>
To: CMA-L <<a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a>><br>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 16:17:23 +0100<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>On 14/10/2011 15:34, Alan Coote wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Hi Ian et al, <br>
<br>
<i><span style='font-style:italic'>In simple terms, Ofcom says "Tell us
the Community you wish to cover - and how you propose doing it.<br>
If you look on Ofcom's published "TX Params", you'll see the stations
that have asked for and got much higher powers and sites. </span></i><br>
My direct experience is that this simply not true! <br>
<br>
Ofcom hide behind what they have called a ‘Policy’ to limit
CR to 25 Watts ERP. The restriction is real and affects many stations outside
of remote parts of <st1:country-region w:st="on">Wales</st1:country-region> and
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region>.
There are 21 stations which have great than 25W ERP. <br>
<br>
For the rest of us, the 5km limit is arbitrary and a nonsense. It should be
removed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma'>++<br>
<br>
Our experience is the same as Alan's. We had two people living well within the
5km radius. Both wrote to support our application to Ofcom to increase our
signal because neither could receive us.<br>
<br>
Our application was turned down flat<br>
<br>
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Gary</st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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