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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Ian et al,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>In simple terms, Ofcom says "Tell us the Community you wish to cover - and how you propose doing it.<br>If you look on Ofcom's published "TX Params", you'll see the stations that have asked for and got much higher powers and sites.<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My direct experience is that this simply not true! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ofcom hide behind what they have called a ‘Policy’ to limit CR to 25 Watts ERP. The restriction is real and affects many stations outside of remote parts of Wales and Scotland. There are 21 stations which have great than 25W ERP.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>For the rest of us, the 5km limit is arbitrary and a nonsense. It should be removed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alan Coote<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Business Development Director <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The Bay Radio<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Office 01202 580200<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Studio 01202 571028<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mobile 07801 518858<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Email <a href="mailto:alan.coote@thebayradio.com"><span style='color:blue'>alan.coote@thebayradio.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Web <a href="http://www.thebayradio.com/"><span style='color:blue'>www.thebayradio.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The Bay Radio, 25B Elliott Road, Bournemouth, BH11 8LQ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img border=0 width=100 height=103 id="Picture_x0020_0" src="cid:image001.gif@01CC8A86.C61E7F80" alt="Description: The-Bay-logo-small.gif"></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ian Hickling<br><b>Sent:</b> 13 October 2011 11:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> clive.glover@lineone.net; Jaqui Devereux<br><b>Cc:</b> cma-l<br><b>Subject:</b> [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community radio law<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Clive<br>At the risk of being guilty of perpetual repetition, can I take you up on one point:<br> <br><em><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>The restrictions on transmitter power to 50 watts and the "5km" radius for CR stations are unnecessarily restrictive. Stations should be able to make the case for covering a defined local community area and the transmitter power to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter with OFCOM engineers. However, defining the whole of London or Manchester etc as your community would be taking it too far!</span></em><i><br></i><br>There never has been that hypothetical 50W/5km <em><b><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>restriction</span></b></em>.<br>It's a <em><b><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>guideline</span></b></em>.<br> <br>It has always been the situation that ".......<em><span style='font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>stations should be able to make the case for covering a defined local community area and the transmitter power to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter ......</span></em><br>It's a distinct section of the Application document.<br> <br>In simple terms, Ofcom says "Tell us the Community you wish to cover - and how you propose doing it.<br>If you look on Ofcom's published "TX Params", you'll see the stations that have asked for and got much higher powers and sites.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:#262626'>Ian Hickling<br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Partner</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>transplan UK<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>> From: clive.glover@lineone.net<br>> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 18:19:54 +0100<br>> To: jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk<br>> CC: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community radio law<br>> <br>> Jaqui<br>> <br>> Obviously the rules limiting or prohibiting advertising on some stations should be removed. They were intended to limit competition for local commercial stations and I doubt this Government would want to be seen to be limiting competition!<br>> <br>> The rules preventing CR stations being licenced in areas where there are existing commercial stations (but not the other way round) are inequitable and should be removed.<br>> <br>> The 50% commercial income rule causes us no problems, nor many other stations and has the advantage of showing a clear distinction between commercial and community stations. The ability to offset real commercial income against a notional value for volunteer time means that this should not create problems for the majority of CR stations, although I accept it may for a few.<br>> <br>> The restrictions on transmitter power to 50 watts and the "5km" radius for CR stations are unnecessarily restrictive. Stations should be able to make the case for covering a defined local community area and the transmitter power to do this should be agreed as a technical/engineering matter with OFCOM engineers. However, defining the whole of London or Manchester etc as your community would be taking it too far!<br>> <br>> Hope this helps!<br>> <br>> regards,<br>> <br>> Clive<br>> On 13 Oct 2011, at 13:51, Jaqui Devereux wrote:<br>> <br>> > Dear all<br>> > <br>> > The DCMS will be co-hosting a couple of meetings with us, probably in<br>> > the New Year, to discuss possible amendments to the law on community<br>> > radio, as part of the new Communications Bill.<br>> > <br>> > We are writing to ask your views on what the agenda should cover - we<br>> > do have quite a few ideas on what you might want but would prefer you<br>> > to tell us!<br>> > <br>> > Almost certainly community radio advertising rules (all of them) will<br>> > be on the agenda, but what other subjects would you like on it?<br>> > <br>> > Please do let us know,<br>> > <br>> > Best wishes<br>> > <br>> > Jaqui<br>> > <br>> > -- <br>> > Jaqui Devereux<br>> > Director, Community Media Association<br>> > Community Media Association<br>> > <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk">http://www.commedia.org.uk</a><br>> > <br>> > t: 0114 279 5219<br>> > <br>> > Canstream Internet Radio & Video<br>> > <a href="http://www.canstream.co.uk/">http://www.canstream.co.uk/</a><br>> > <br>> > <a href="http://twitter.com/community_media">http://twitter.com/community_media</a><br>> > <a href="https://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation">https://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation</a><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > <br>> > Reply - <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>> > <br>> > The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association - <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk">http://www.commedia.org.uk</a><br>> > Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/community_media">http://twitter.com/community_media</a><br>> > <a href="http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation">http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation</a><br>> > Canstream Internet Radio & Video: <a href="http://www.canstream.co.uk/">http://www.canstream.co.uk/</a><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > <br>> > Mailing list guidelines: <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/">http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/</a><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> > <br>> > To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br>> > <a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a><br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Reply - <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>> <br>> The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association - <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk">http://www.commedia.org.uk</a><br>> Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/community_media">http://twitter.com/community_media</a><br>> <a href="http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation">http://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation</a><br>> Canstream Internet Radio & Video: <a href="http://www.canstream.co.uk/">http://www.canstream.co.uk/</a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Mailing list guidelines: <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/">http://www.commedia.org.uk/about/cma-email-lists/email-list-guidelines/</a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br>> <a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></body></html>