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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sorry for pulling you up mate, but I don’t
think anyone has actually said they don’t want to suppress offensive
language?? What they have pointed out is that it isn’t as
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cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 21 September 2011 16:14<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> julian@10radio.org; cma-l<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] Offensive
language on Radio</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Julian<br>
Can I take you up on your last paragraph:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><em><i><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>So getting back to the original point, a regulatory system
which relies upon stations having fully resourced staff and management teams
presents extra challenges for volunteer run stations such as ours. If,
at the meeting in October, Ofcom seem inclined to move towards increased
regulation or expectations, I would ask that the Jaqui and the CMA represent
the difficulties that this will pose for stations operating with minimal
resources.</span></font></i></em><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
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The Regulatory System doesn't and can't specify or rely on the level of staff
resources that a station has available.<br>
It simply states the rules and enforces them where there is a need.<br>
<br>
You don't have to have enormous resources and dozens of trained staff to keep
to the basic rules.<br>
You just have to engage, train, brief and supervise them properly.<br>
Those are surely the very basic requirements of people management in any
business.<br>
I totally reject the perpetual whinge that because people are
volunteers you can't impose a level of discipline.<br>
<br>
You don't learn to drive, get a licence, buy a car and then complain about
having to stop at red lights.<br>
You don't get a licence, run a radio station and then complain about having to
suppress offensive language.<br>
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Where on earth is the problem?<br>
------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-weight:bold'>Ian Hickling<br>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Partner<br>
transplan UJK</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>From: julian@10radio.org<br>
To: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:31:09 +0100<br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Offensive language on radio - how to avoid the pitfalls<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>It does seem that there are two models of community radio. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>One is a radio station that happens to use community and
voluntary resources. The operational style is probably very similar to
commercial radio.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>The other is a community project that happens to produce
radio. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>It's not to say one is better than the other, and I'm sure
some stations combine both. But we very much fall into the second model.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>Hardly anyone had previous radio experience before we setup
six years ago, but we had lots of community development experience. We
setup primarily to do community development. In that context, we're not
going to be negligent and we're not going to ignore what we have signed up to
do. But we are going to be realistic about what volunteers can be
expected to do, and what they can achieve and deliver in the absence of
full-time hands-on management. From the conversations I've had, people
from the more commercial and possibly top down model really struggle with this
approach. But it works for us, it works for our community, and from what
Ofcom have said having monitored our output, it works for them as well.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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which relies upon stations having fully resourced staff and management teams
presents extra challenges for volunteer run stations such as ours. If,
at the meeting in October, Ofcom seem inclined to move towards increased
regulation or expectations, I would ask that the Jaqui and the CMA represent
the difficulties that this will pose for stations operating with minimal
resources.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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