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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think the word ‘’DONGLE’’ is the answer
to a lot of your queries??
Er perhaps ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>London Chinese Radio<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 06 September 2011 13:05<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cma-l<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Yanli Ji<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] mobile
technology and community radio</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=SimSun><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
Great response from this thread, and interesting read...<br>
One thing that comes up is how technically advanced CMA members are, for sure.<br>
<br>
However, I was sort of looking for lower tech answers, that a normal person
could use to their advantage.<br>
<br>
I'm thinking about two main areas, one where listeners could use mobile
technology to interact with the station, and the other where stations could use
mobile technology to interact with listeners. <br>
<br>
With regard to the former, most stations (BBC, commercial and community) are
already trying to exploit mobile technology to try to entice listeners to
interact with the station.<br>
<br>
With regard to the latter, I haven't seen so much, but it could be because I
don't get out much...!<br>
I'm thinking along lines of presenters going out into the community and using
iPads (or smartphones) as a way of bringing the station to the audience. <br>
I like the "travel light" aspect of this: there are existing apps
(such as the <a href="http://www.ikmultimedia.com/irigmic/features/"
target="_blank">iRig mic</a> and <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfgMh4pdoBg&feature=related"
target="_blank">iPad dj</a> and <a
href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brp7JUxGlDQ" target="_blank">Groovemaker</a>),
where people could bring the studio to groups, and get them to <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>participate</span></i>. No vans full of equipment, no
fumbling around with getting expensive equipment to talk to the station, etc. I
think there is a lot of future in this. Twenty years ago, if you wanted to
record your band, you had to go to a recording studio and pay engineers, etc.
Now you can do so much of this on the computer. <br>
<br>
There are some technical questions, (mainly because I don't have an iPhone or
iPad, so I don't know), like can you do live vox pops on an iPhone, and then
have it simultaneously send the audio to the station (or even the website - cut
out the middleman)? Or is it just a case of recording it live and then
uploading the file (doesn't make too much a difference anyway). Anybody
discovered an app that is like a presenters desk, where you can play music and
take calls? (gap in the market, maybe?)<br>
<br>
I was inspired by what Clive said, "<i><span style='font-style:italic'>Only
a few years ago such things required van fulls of equipment and a staff of
dozens - at least for the BBC!</span></i>" and I think this is a good
thing, something that all community stations could replicate on a small
budget....<br>
<br>
Love to hear your comments!<br>
<br>
Peter Vautier<br>
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">London</st1:place></st1:City> Chinese
Radio<br>
(aka London Huayu)<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2011/9/5
Ian Hickling <<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com" target="_blank">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=SimSun><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>We have been doing a lot of work recently on reducing
latency (delay) on link and <st1:place w:st="on">OB</st1:place> encoding
systems.<br>
This has always been a problem with any digitising algorithm but now latency
can be as low as 10ms which is effectively undetectable to the human brain.<br>
However - the methods of doing this are complex and represent the use of
specific equipment and a great deal of time expended - so we will certanly
install them - but I'm afraid we're not prepared to tell anyone else</span></font><font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font>how
to do it!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=3 color="#262626" face=SimSun><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#262626;font-weight:bold'>Ian Hickling<br>
</span></font>Partner<br>
transplan <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>From:
<a href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk" target="_blank">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a><br>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:22:18 +0100<br>
To: <a href="mailto:clive.glover@lineone.net" target="_blank">clive.glover@lineone.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>CC: <a
href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a>; <a
href="mailto:admin@londonhuayu.co.uk" target="_blank">admin@londonhuayu.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=SimSun><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] mobile technology and community radio<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Clive,
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I
have heard that you can get special / better streaming codecs that a) reduce
the size of the stream and b) reduces the delay.. I think places like this</span></font><font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font><a
href="http://www.audiotx.com/" target="_blank">http://www.audiotx.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=SimSun><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I also think there is going to be a session on
something similar to this at this years Radio Festival, about low cost <st1:place
w:st="on">OB</st1:place> solutions instead of expensive</span></font><font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font>commercial<font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font>/
BBC setups.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>2011/9/5
Clive Glover <<a href="mailto:clive.glover@lineone.net" target="_blank">clive.glover@lineone.net</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Peter
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>We
have been experimenting over the Summer with various ways of doing Outside
Broadcasts. Essentially we have mikes, mixer and music source(s) plus a laptop
PC creating a stream broadcast over the Internet which is then picked up in the
studios. In theory we can use a direct Ethernet connection or WiFi if available
at the remote location or 3G otherwise. However Ethernet is rarely available
and we have found WiFi unreliable so have opted for 3G which works well. We got
a 3G dongle for <span lang=ZH-CN>￡</span>30 from 3 which lasted us through the
whole Summer!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The
only major problem with this setup is that there is a delay of several seconds
which can cause problems if we are interacting with a presenter in the studio.
We tried various combinations of presenter in studio with reporter on remote
site, presenter at remote site with music coming from studio and broadcasting
the whole programme from the remote site. Perhaps surprisingly the latter
worked best as it avoided problems working with the delay.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The
technical solution to the delay is to use special "black boxes"
called Instreamers and Extreamers although these are expensive (<span
lang=ZH-CN>￡</span>200 or so each). But running the whole programme from the
remote site works very well as long as the broadband link stays up.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The
other main lesson is that it is essential to have a technical operator at the
studios all the time during an <st1:place w:st="on">OB</st1:place>, with a
direct communications link (mobile phone usually although it could be Skype).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I
think we have been surprised that this setup can produce such a good quality
link from an external site using just a few <span lang=ZH-CN>￡</span>100s of
equipment. Only a few years ago such things required van fulls of equipment and
a staff of dozens - at least for the BBC!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Clive
Glover<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Radio
Verulam<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=3 face=SimSun><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>St Albans</span></font></st1:place><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 4
Sep 2011, at 22:42, London Chinese Radio wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi
everyone, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Sounds
a bit vague, but I would be interested in hearing what use community stations
are making of mobile technology.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>So
the first question is "what do I mean by mobile technology", to which
the answer must be "somehow using a mobile phone to interact with a radio
station or it's output"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I
once saw a presenter who used to take calls to his mobile which he had plugged
into the mixing desk (that was on Sound Radio) it worked really well, and he
did get quite a number of calls.</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Some
of our presenters come and want to play music from their iphones, so I guess
that's another use. Once, before we had a telephone hybrid, we had a presenter
who did a phone in, and held the mobile up to the mic, that worked pretty well
too.... </span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:
"Times New Roman"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>But
more importantly, listeners - do you take texts, SMS, facebook messages, etc.
How about people listening with their mobile phones?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Or
what about using SMS services to contact large amounts of people en masse...?
Anyone had experiences with that?</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Does
anyone know of any way to broadcast to mobile phones and avoid huge costs to
listeners on mobiles? </span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I'm
about to start a mobile technology project, and I'd like to hear any success
stories, maybe we can all share what works well. I certainly will be more than
happy to share any results from the project.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Best
regards to all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Peter
Vautier<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=3
face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>London</span></font></st1:place></st1:City>
Chinese Radio<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:21.0pt'><font size=3 face=SimSun><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>-- </span></font><font size=2 color=black
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<h1 style='margin-bottom:3.0pt;line-height:21.0pt'><b><font size=3
color="#666666" face=SimSun><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:#666666;font-weight:normal'>野火烧不尽，春风吹又生</span></font></b><font
color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></h1>
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