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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You cannot I’m afraid use words like sense
………… there is none. That is at least how it appears to me anyway. Then again as
I have said before, perhaps I am the one who has missed something ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Martin Steers<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 05 August 2011 12:44<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Ofcom
breaches - lessons for all stations</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>As a side note.. and question to all..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Why are all the community radio KC reports are for the period ending
april? so that Ofcom get hundreds of reports to read and sift through at the
same time (as well as deal with other Community radio issues)..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Why are they not to cover the period ending on the date you actually
started broadcasting? Or aligned with say the stations financial year end? that
way you dont have huge overlaps of reporting periods or actually dates that
make sense?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Phil Korbel <<a
href="mailto:phil.korbel@googlemail.com">phil.korbel@googlemail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Not sure if its just me - but are Ofcom cranking up the pressure
here? Or are the recent rash of breaches simply a reflection of a larger
sector that by definition has a wide range of competence and cock ups within
it?<br>
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As to the reporting requirements - I'm with Richard on this - it could be a
hell of a lot worse and it is all there in black and white when you sign
up. I'm not without sympathy for station managers left on their tod to do
the dull paperwork - but as someone else said - planning the data collection
over the year makes things a lot more do-able.<br>
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Some of the issue of the capacity to deliver on administration revolves around
what understanding your volunteers have when they sign up. Is it 'play
and go' or a broader commitment to help the station thrive? There's an
interesting story on that front with ALLFM here in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Manchester</st1:place></st1:City>, where the agreement from the
volunteers to pay a small subscription to help pay the rent has also meant a
greater involvement by them in the running of the station - a very
healthy state of affairs. Obvioulsy there'll be stations where this has
always been the way - but in 'these times' getting all volunteers chipping in
off air [e.g. doing some admin] is going to be crucial to survival.<br>
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bests<br>
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Phil<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>On 5 August 2011 08:36, Richard Berry <<a
href="mailto:richard.berry@sunderland.ac.uk" target="_blank">richard.berry@sunderland.ac.uk</a>>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>There’s a very tricky
balance here isn’t there? With ofcom walking a tightrope between giving
stations the room to run their affairs and being the protector of the sector.
We’d all agree that if a neighbouring station was barely broadcasting and you
were working hard every day to put out the very best programming you can, that
ofcom ought to intervene? I’m sure the government has it’s eye on ofcom and
would relish the chance to cut it down to size and there may be a chance to
influence that but my hunch is if that happens giving more wiggle room to
community radio will not be on the to-do list. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>As for the recent
sanction. I always tell my students that ofcom is a bit like your mum; there
are rules and you’ll get told off if you break them but you can lessen that if
you tell her. Try and hide from what you’ve done or plead ignorance and you’ll
be in more trouble. Break the rules when your brother has already been grounded
for the same thing and expect her to come down even harder on you. Yes that
means reading the bulletins carefully every month and considering what that
means for your station and, yes, it means checking you’re in line with what
you’ve said you’ll do but when you accept a licence you accept that as the
T&C’s. It’s like a driving licence, there are rules attached to the
freedoms. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>The report might be a
mess. It’s confusing and time consuming but under the current rules it’s
probably the best check and balance there is. What would the alternative be?
Submission of all accounts? A visit from ofcom to look at the books and listen
to the tapes? I do agree though some work could be done in making it
user-friendly and maybe this is where the expertise of community engagement in
the sector can help ofcom – who are after all a governmental agency used to
making forms, not filling them in. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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