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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>I have enormous
sympathy as I’m sure others do. I have asked that the CMA Council
discuss this and take matters up with Ofcom. I got ticked off for the way I submitted
our report, thinking that they’d like to see reports from some of my hard
working and energetic volunteers. None of it I have to fill the form in with
it fully referenced against the KCs. Mmm….it’s one thing being
part of an organisation where process is King/Queen. Out at the coal face it’s
an entirely different story.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face="Comic Sans MS"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:blue'>As a newly elected
member of CMA I shall be making a nuisance of myself by saying/nay insisting
this sort of admin process needs to be heavily stripped back and work to
produce a useful document that, maybe, could be sued in funding bids, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Council Member for the
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color:blue'>01522 886001</span></font></b></strong><font size=2 color=blue
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Martin Steers<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 04 August 2011 18:05<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Ofcom
breaches - lessons for all stations</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I am sorry to see any station get breached for not submitting
KC or finance report, and I feel for any station that had troubles, and glad
your getting it sorted with Ofcom.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>However when stations apply for a license, and agree their
key commitments that includes a commitment to full the rules and
regulations of which filling these documents falls under. The reports are
worthwhile as they are the only was at present that stations
can demonstrate their fulfilment of the KC, and remember
the KC and social gain are the only things that define us as community
stations.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I would welcome the discussion on other practical and
realistic ways that stations can evidence and report back on the fulfilment of
their KC's?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>My advice is to track data as you go, maybe every month or quarter you
draw down the numbers and evidence for the KC, and as far as I know the finance
report can be drawn down from your organisations annual return.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>This is a one size fits all, because we all have to evidence our KC, it
could be a lot worse, Ofcom could ask for more validated document or externally
audited data (in terms of live hours, speech / music ratio, training numbers
etc). At present they take all that on face value from community stations and
trust them all in their reports.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Just my thoughts<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Martin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Studio, TMCR 95.3fm <<a
href="mailto:studio@tmcrfm.co.uk">studio@tmcrfm.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>And, in the latest list of breaches issued today, <a
href="http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/broadcast/radio-ops/breaches/compliance-reports.pdf"
target="_blank">http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/broadcast/radio-ops/breaches/compliance-reports.pdf</a>,
is TMCR FM. I'd just like to add my 2p worth.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>One of the big problems in trying to run a community radio
station is the amount of time it takes to look after paperwork. At one point we
had some volunteers helping out in the office, but they decided they didn't
want to carry on and left. We have only one member of staff, me, and it's near
impossible to keep up with everything. Volunteers tend to come and their shows
and we may get them to appear at a local event, but they're not interested in the
office side of things.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I "don't do" Excel and have really struggled
trying to work out what's needed in the financial report. No use passing it to
the treasurer as he's recently retired and was never a fan of computers. So,
we're now under threat of sanction but, in fairness to Ofcom, they have now
provided an alternative means of submitting the information. That seems to be
my task for the rest of today.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>It's something I know little about as I am not usually
involved in the book-keeping side of things. I don't feel comfortable doing the
report but there's no option. There's no easy answer, the reporting has
to be done - or else. One of those 'one size fits all' situations that simply
does not fit, as no less than 10 stations in the latest report appears to show.
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Of course, not all stations are equal. There are those with
lots of paid staff who may be able to churn out an Excel spreadsheet in 2
minutes flat. For what we are, a very small community radio station, I
think TMCR works wonders and our listeners like what we do.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I didn't get involved in the station to spend hours on
paperwork. My priority is to keep things running and make sure the
presenters and listeners are happy. I'm told that Rolls-Royce used
to have a word for it - MAGPIE = Manufacture And Generation of Paper Instead of
Engines...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Gordon Sharpe, Station Manager, TMCR FM, <st1:place w:st="on">Doncaster</st1:place></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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