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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Alan n’ all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We’re having a job paying for our Tea
and Biscuits at the moment let alone migrating to Digital / DAB or whatever it
is?? The only migrating we’ll be doing is to the small claims
court on the back of the bailiffs lorry !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yep ! it’s that bad
and do you know why ? simple coz’ we can’t
give the guy who wants to plug his hardware shop a little advert. We have to
give the sponsors / donors / customers / clients what they want --- if we can’t,
they go elsewhere, and that my dear friends is exactly what they are doing in
their droves.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So ‘Migrating’ seems to be the
buzz-word at the minute ……………… migrate to
digital, migrate out of ones offices, customers migrating to pastures new …………
perhaps Mr Hunt and Co could do some migrating as well, preferably as far away
as possible because up to now he’s proved to be completely useless.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Still, we can look forward to another
consultation …….. there’s nothing to talk
about ………. Nothing has changed, the arguments are the same
and they are staring us in the face.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Get real.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Alan Coote<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 08 July 2011 14:57<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'cma-l'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] "digital
radio switchover date"</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Nick et al,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>As I’ve posted
many times before, we should be pushing for digital solution for ALL radio
stations. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>There are numerous
value added services with digital radio which are not possible on analogue. If
the big boys vacate to digital, then FM will be a second rate technology
–like AM is now. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Community Radio and
the smaller commercial stations must push for the whole industry to migrate to
a digital platform.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;font-weight:bold'>Image
this</span></font></b><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>… digital
broadcasting with 100s of stations available including Commercial, BBC, Local
Community Stations and even National Community of Interest Stations. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Neither DAB/DAB+ or
FM can provide this – nowhere near. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>While I’m not
married to a technology, its only DRM/DRM+ that fits the bill. It’s even
possible simulcast digital on the VHF FM band while working towards the longer
term switchover. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>We need to lobby the
government and not play the ridiculous games of the self-serving DAB only
Digital Radio Stakeholder group. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Alan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 08 July 2011 9:11 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> office@ccr-fm.co.uk; cma-l<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] "digital
radio switchover date"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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font-family:Tahoma'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>No - not too technical - just
getting accurate.<br>
Regarding your resume Nick:<br>
<br>
1) We want more community stations to join the throng<br>
<em><i><font face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma'>True</span></font></i></em><i><span
style='font-style:italic'><br>
</span></i>2) We can't, coz' there ain't any room left on the spectrum<br>
<em><i><font face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma'>Untrue - the present
allocation and protection system is neither realistic nor efficient.</span></font></i></em><i><span
style='font-style:italic'><br>
</span></i>3) Those already on the spectrum are getting interfered and fettled
with by<br>
commercial radio stations who are either on the same wavelength, over<br>
modulating, too much power or just generally being a complete pain in the<br>
arse !<br>
<em><i><font face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma'>Untrue. Partly
attributed to inadeqate planning but mostly people using atrociously badly
designed receivers in conditions where low-power signals can't perform
properly. If any other licensed stations are over-deviating it is blatantly
obvious and Ofcom will jump on them from a great height.</span></font></i></em><br>
4) The solution is to shift the bigger boys onto digital services to free up<br>
FM frequencies the BBC for example hogging 50% of space in some areas<br>
?? er I think ?<br>
<em><i><font face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma'>Correct - but BBC and
Classic together as the 5 national FM services occupy 42% of Band II almost
exclusively. These will definitely not migrate away from FM until an
internationally-agreed digital format is in place and the audience has accepted
its use. I reckon on at least 8 years before that can be achieved.</span></font></i></em><i><span
style='font-style:italic'><br>
</span></i>5) Lots more community stations as they are only on peanuts watts !
and<br>
possibly a bit of room for manoeuvre for those already getting trodden on<br>
only 1 mile outside their own MCA<br>
<em><i><font face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma'>Not necessarily -
because the licensing and mainly the funding regimes won't be able to cope.
Your own problem is able to be resolved as we've discussed. You simply have to
push harder. As your MCA is Measured Coverage Area, by definition you will
certainly not be receivable outside it!</span></font></i></em><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color="#262626"
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#262626;
font-weight:bold'>Ian Hickling<br>
</span></font></b><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Partner<br>
transplan <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>> From: office@ccr-fm.co.uk<br>
> To: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 15:29:11 +0100<br>
> Subject: [cma-l] FW: The Telegraph: Government still won't commit to
digital radio switchover date<br>
> <br>
> It's all gone extremely technical and possibly over the heads of the<br>
> majority of community radio laymen.<br>
> <br>
> I see it quite simply as this (but correct me if I am wrong)<br>
> <br>
> 1) We want more community stations to join the throng<br>
> 2) We can't, coz' there ain't any room left on the spectrum<br>
> 3) Those already on the spectrum are getting interfered and fettled with
by<br>
> commercial radio stations who are either on the same wavelength, over<br>
> modulating, too much power or just generally being a complete pain in the<br>
> arse !<br>
> 4) The solution is to shift the bigger boys onto digital services to free
up<br>
> FM frequencies the BBC for example hogging 50% of space in some areas<br>
> ?? er I think ?<br>
> 5) Lots more community stations as they are only on peanuts watts ! and<br>
> possibly a bit of room for manoeuvre for those already getting trodden on<br>
> only 1 mile outside their own MCA<br>
> <br>
> This ladies and gentlemen is how I see it, furthermore we are experiencing<br>
> it, which confirms that regardless of the down to earth slightly
uneducated<br>
> language the fact remains that our view on things is possibly the correct<br>
> view and those in the Ivory Towers have still got the curtains closed, the<br>
> blinkers on and the ear muffs on their empty heads.<br>
> <br>
> Regards<br>
> <br>
> Nick<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>
> <a href="mailto:%5bmailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk%5d">[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk]</a>
On Behalf Of Alan Coote<br>
> Sent: 07 July 2011 10:59<br>
> To: 'cma-l'<br>
> Subject: Re: [cma-l]The Telegraph: Government still won’t commit to
digital<br>
> radio switchover date<br>
> <br>
> More bad news for DAB<br>
> <br>
> RadioForums.co.uk<br>
> <br>
> DAB broadcasts have ceased in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Portugal</st1:place></st1:country-region>, with public-service
broadcaster RTP<br>
> handing back its licence to the regulator. RTP was simulcasting six
national<br>
> stations, covering 74% of the population on 44 transmitters, including 9
in<br>
> the Azores and 7 in <st1:place w:st="on">Madeira</st1:place>. Although no
digital-only stations were offered,<br>
> RTP said it had invested £5.7million in the DAB project to date, with
annual<br>
> costs of £300,000 per year, which was unsustainable given the small number<br>
> of listeners.<br>
> <br>
> The country’s Regulatory Authority for the Media described the DAB
project<br>
> as a “failure”, caused by problems “that also occurred
in other countries,<br>
> such as the costs of simulcast, the price of receivers, a lack of<br>
> coordination with the automotive industry... and feared marginalization of<br>
> local radio stations.” The Portuguese Association of Broadcasting
said “the<br>
> technology never had opportunity to take hold, given the delay in the<br>
> implementation of DAB, due mainly to the limited interest shown by
industry,<br>
> listeners and radio broadcasters.” The regulator is retaining the<br>
> frequencies for radio broadcasts, allowing use for DAB+ in the future. RTP<br>
> has also temporarily ceased shortwave transmissions of RDP Internacional
to<br>
> save money.<br>
> <br>
> Meanwhile, in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Spain</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
many DAB transmitters have also been switched off this<br>
> recently, after the government gave permission for minimum coverage to be<br>
> reduced from 50% to 20%, leaving only <st1:State w:st="on">Madrid</st1:State>
and <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Barcelona</st1:place></st1:City>
with DAB signals.<br>
> This forms part of a new “technologically neutral” digital
radio plan for<br>
> <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Spain</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
paving the way for DAB+ and pilot services of DRM/DRM+<br>
> <br>
> Alan<br>
> <br>
> Alan Coote<br>
> Managing Director <br>
> The Bay Radio<br>
> Office 01202 580200<br>
> Studio 01202 571028<br>
> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Mobile</st1:City> <st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">07801</st1:PostalCode></st1:place> 518858<br>
> <br>
> Email <a href="mailto:alan.coote@thebayradio.com">alan.coote@thebayradio.com</a><br>
> Web <a href="http://www.thebayradio.com">www.thebayradio.com</a><br>
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