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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Martin n all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think I’ve at least got half of
the stick ………………….. all I can say
is don’t pay ! ask the local
community stations to broadcast it for nowt’ then go back to the newspaper
on the ‘half a loaf is better than no loaf at all’
offer them half ……………. If they refuse ………….
Tough titty for them if they accept, give us (Community Radio)
the other half.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The Council or whoever have now doubled
their audience at no extra cost providing of course the so called numty law has
been changed, which was what initiated this e-mail exchange in the first place.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It’s the old holding someone to
ransom with a monopoly ……………… calling ones
bluff would be my solution and sticking to ones guns if they start their silly
antics.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Morals again my dear watson<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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martinsteers@gmail.com [mailto:martinsteers@gmail.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Martin Steers<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 28 June 2011 15:14<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Office - ccr-fm<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> CMA-L<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] UKRD wants
public notice law change</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Afraid you might have gotten the wrong end of the stick, if as a public
service you are currently talking about public notices and road closures you
are doing nothing wrong.. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>What this is about is at the moment councils and companies HAVE to pay
for these notices to be printed in a newspaper, and UKRD are trying to get this
reviewed to enable them to use other media's (including radio). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>M<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Office - ccr-fm <<a
href="mailto:office@ccr-fm.co.uk">office@ccr-fm.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Martin n’ all</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Are we yet again talking about ‘’paid-for’’
notices and information or is it a free-for-all
??
the reason I ask is that only last year we had a huge debate on our station
regarding planning proposals from a local firm. It was a hot potato in our
community and we covered it in a fair and balanced way. The company applying
for the land and building rights refused to comment after about 4 weeks and
therefore ended up out of the debate. Not our fault of course as the airwaves
were there for them should they have wanted to use them
………………. Also, we are constantly everyday
talking about road closures ………… many of our listeners
say this is very valuable part of our Breakfast and Drivetime programmes
………… they are not paid for by anyone …..</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>We were asked at the outset by Ofcom to consult (there’s that
damn word again)(consultation) our communities
and ask them what they wanted ……. Seems odd that when you come back
with the info’ some jerk has already made a law to prevent you from doing
it. It gets dafter everyday ……. I wouldn’t change it for the
world, you couldn’t write a script like this even if you tried.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>It looks like Canalside have been breaking the Law
…………
LOL
another Law obviously made by complete nongy-nongs !</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I could possibly announce this on drivetime in an hours time
………. No more road closures and as of tomorrow all
drivers will have to tootle along in their vehicles whilst reading a newspaper
! there may be a bit of
windscreen showing if one is in a BMW, however you’ll be driving blind if
you happen to own a smart car.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I wonder how many Laws there actually are that our brotherhood have
no idea of ………………. Plenty I reckon.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Furthermore, in all the war and peace documents that we receive
none of it is ever written in laymans english so one has to be the next rung
down from a Professor to understand it. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>If you were stood in a pub with a guy who was talking the rhetoric
of the rules and regulations, you’d walk off after two minutes.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>We promote lots of things on Canalside, and we embrace them. Road
closure announcements help the environment and prevent traffic jams
…… not a crime in my book ………… public
notice Law my arse
! what a load
of cobblers and a new one on us.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Then again, as I always say ……….. perhaps
I’ve got the wrong end of the stick?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>It does appear me though that as well as licking the backsides of
commercial radio ‘they’ ‘ whoever’
? are giving the newspaper society a tickle as
well ………… my word, there has been a lot of wining
and dining going on …………… I didn’t get an
invite though.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Regards</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Nick</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Martin Steers<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 28 June 2011 13:30</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> [cma-l] UKRD
wants public notice law change</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Certainly
something to think about and discuss.. maybe consider action on your own
(station and individual) or a CMA thing? This could be of huge benefit to
community stations and the communities they serve.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><a
href="http://radiotoday.co.uk/2011/06/ukrd-wants-public-notice-law-change/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+radiotoday+%28Radio+Today+-+News%29"
target="_blank">http://radiotoday.co.uk/2011/06/ukrd-wants-public-notice-law-change/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+radiotoday+%28Radio+Today+-+News%29</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
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<p style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;
line-height:16.8pt;vertical-align:baseline;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;
outline-color:initial;border-style:initial;border-color:initial'><font size=2
color="#555555" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:#555555'>Local radio operator UKRD is calling for ministers to change the
law which means public notices about things like road closures and planning
applications have to be carried only in local newspapers.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;
line-height:16.8pt;vertical-align:baseline;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;
outline-color:initial;border-style:initial;border-color:initial'><font size=2
color="#555555" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:#555555'>The group’s Chief Executive, William Rogers, told <a
href="http://RadioToday.co.uk" target="_blank">RadioToday.co.uk</a> the current
legislation was ‘out-dated and very old fashioned’.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;
line-height:16.8pt;vertical-align:baseline;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;
outline-color:initial;border-style:initial;border-color:initial'><font size=2
color="#555555" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:#555555'>Along with the Managing Directors of UKRD’s portfolio of
stations – which includes Pirate FM, Eagle Radio, Minster and 2BR –
William is campaigning to open up the use of all media for public notices so that
councils and government departments can choose the marketing solution most
appropriate to get their information across.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;
line-height:16.8pt;vertical-align:baseline;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;
outline-color:initial;border-style:initial;border-color:initial'><font size=2
color="#555555" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:#555555'>William told us: “It is a reality in today’s world,
that circulation of local newspapers has been falling and their effectiveness
to deliver the messages various public bodies want to get across to communities
they serve, has diminished as a result. Whilst they still provide strong local
editorial content and are a valuable resource, it is clearly ridiculous that
public bodies are not able to make a judgement about how best to deliver their
messages to local communities and are restricted by law from making that
choice.”</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;
line-height:16.8pt;vertical-align:baseline;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;
outline-color:initial;border-style:initial;border-color:initial'><font size=2
color="#555555" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:#555555'>He added that he would like to see a change in the current law,
so that web, local radio and local newspapers could all be
considered. “This may seem like a small change but there is no
question that local radio, along with other media, has been denied the
opportunity to play a role in this area for far too long and should now be
allowed to participate along with local newspapers and others,” said
Rogers.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;
line-height:16.8pt;vertical-align:baseline;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;
outline-color:initial;border-style:initial;border-color:initial'><font size=2
color="#555555" face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:#555555'>We’re told UKRD’s managers around the country are
lobbying local MPs through letters and meetings, setting out the case for
change and arguing that public sector organisations should be given ‘the
widest choice to ensure effective and cost efficient delivery of their notices
into local communities’.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:justify;line-height:16.8pt;
vertical-align:baseline;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;outline-color:initial;
border-style:initial;border-color:initial'><font size=2 color="#555555"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#555555'>Only <a
href="http://www.lgcomms.org.uk/blog/lgcomms-newspaper?blog=experts-call-for-200m-saving-on-public-notices"
target="_blank" style='outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;outline-color:initial;
border-style:initial;border-color:initial'><font color="#297eb9"><span
style='color:#297EB9;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm;text-decoration:
none'>last month</span></font></a> an organisation representing communications
departments from local councils wrote to the Department for Communities and
Local Government calling for a change to allow notices to be placed on their
own websites to save £200m over five years in press advertising costs.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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vertical-align:baseline;outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;outline-color:initial;
border-style:initial;border-color:initial'><font size=2 color="#555555"
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#555555'>Previously,
organisations like the Newspaper Society have <a
href="http://www.newspapersoc.org.uk/2/jul/09/ns-raises-local-government-advertising-concerns"
target="_blank" style='outline-width:0px;outline-style:initial;outline-color:initial;
border-style:initial;border-color:initial'><font color="#297eb9"><span
style='color:#297EB9;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm;text-decoration:
none'>called for the restrictions to stay in place</span></font></a> to
support the local press industry. Many local councils began publishing their
own weekly free newspapers as a way of reducing the amount spent on press
advertising.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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