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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear All<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I couldn’t make it Saturday, but all seems
to have gone OK ……………………. Good e-mail from Peter …… I couldn’t have done any better
myself …………. I have to agree with a lot of this.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think possibly a slight bit over the top
with the dig at Ofcom ……..(they’re just doing a job) and certainly correct
about faffing about, pussyfootying around worried about upsetting certain ones.
It seems alright for them to upset us, but we’re supposed to just sit there and
take it …………. Er think not.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On a final note, I am a bit confused with the
assumption that Online radio is ‘crap’ I actually
think Commercial Radio is ‘crap’<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Do you want me to name names ……………….. ?? I
don’t mind …… look at the map -------------- all six of our commercial stations
in our area are crap ER NO when I’m travelling the country and my search
locks on to commercial radio in ???? wherever ------ they’re ‘crap’ as well ………….
They all pee in the same pot ! obviously just my opinion and the thousands that
listen to them of course disagree.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>However <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bear in mind though that radio listeners fall
into three categories<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>1) Highly interlectual / Interesting<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2) Someone in the middle<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>3) Deadpan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Community Radio tries to aim at all three …………
sometimes we succeed, sometimes we don’t ---------- we try to be all things to
all men ……. As I said, sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn’t.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Commercial Radio is a number 3 ……………….
90% of the time, they succeed …………………. Like I said ‘CRAP’ !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I was in a shop in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Manchester</st1:place></st1:City> about a month ago ………. I can’t
remember now whether it was Real or Key …. But they were running a competition ………….
The 4 callers that were on air were struggling to string three words together
so a sentence was completely out of the question ………………. If I had been the
presenter I would have asked them to say RED backwards !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is this now the ‘in-word’ ?? ‘crap’
Peter and Jaqui’ go and wash your mouths out with soap !
LOL<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>London Chinese Radio<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 14 June 2011 20:19<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> CMA-L;
cmamembers-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk; Community Media Association<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] reflections on
the CMA conference</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hello
all,</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>It
was a good AGM on Saturday, although I tried to find those who wandered off to
the pub afterwards, but couldn't find you. In the end gave up and went home -
had a headache anyway...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Something
nagging at the back of my mind forces me to write...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I
brought up a question (twice) about why online only radio stations are being
excluded from the BBC radio player, and the response I got has got me
wondering:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Jacqui
got some titters from the audience when she said (twice) that most (or a lot)
of online radio is "crap" - a semi-profane word which may seem
amusing, but also reveals an attitude towards online radio operations and their
work. And attempts to paint a huge sector with the same brush. I wonder how
much of these stations she actually listens to? </span></font><font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font>I
don't think she listens to much. (because she thinks they are 'crap').<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>So,
as a member of the CMA, I was hoping that they would be campaigning on my and
other online radio stations behalf. However, I think I will be disappointed
here, because if that is the attitude towards online radio, I shouldn't build
my hopes up. And that's a pity, because I think online radio is where the
future is. I know a lot of people will disagree here, but I really think the
internet has changed society, and will change radio too.</span></font><font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I
would like to challenge the view that internet radio is crap, not just because
of the wealth of excellent radio content out there, but also because I have a
logical argument:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Online
only stations are not having to run FM licenses, and have no duty to ensure
every second of airtime is filled, however meaninglessly, so they have the
leisure to take time and properly produce feature programmes, including
narration, interviews, sound bites, etc. This takes a long time, but it is
something that online only stations can do. Also, many online radio stations
provide niche content that serving particular communities.</span></font><font
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Now,
when I think about 'crap' I can think of output by licensed stations that is
also crap, including even the BBC, who don't want 'crap' on their player. Stuff
like prank calls by Johnathan Ross and Russell Brand to name a specific
example. (it's a long time ago, but I don't listen to BBC radio, there's too
much good alternative content out there). But these stations are all allowed on
the radio player because they are 'licensed' by Ofcom. Ofcom, oh dear, Ofcom.
One quango that really shouldn't have survived the govt cuts. Don't even get me
started on that.... ('not fit for purpose' springs to mind)...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>As I
mentioned at the meeting, it seems to me that the only purpose I can think of
for the BBC Radio Player's existence is to exclude a huge swathe of radio
stations in one foul swoop. This can be seen in its claim to put all of <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> radio
stations in one place. Handy. Yup, a very handy way for an organisation that
was opposed to the community radio sector from the outset to do away with a
huge number of online stations. So why on earth is the CMA supporting it?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Anyway,
out of that disappointing discussion came a beam of light from the audience.
The CMA radio player. Someone pointed out that the CMA's new player is out, and
could be positioned as a competitor to the BBC Radio Player. The CMA radio
player has several </span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font>advantages, no least
the fact that the CMA doesn't have to enter into long negotiations with the BBC
to try (or not, as the case may be) to get community stations (online or
licensed). The CMA radio player could be a lot cheaper (if not free) for
stations using Canstream.<font face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-family:
"Times New Roman"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>In
fact, why on earth is the CMA on one hand developing its own radio player, and
on the other hand encouraging stations to join the BBC Radio Player which will
be in direct competition with it?</span></font><font face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-family:"Times New Roman"'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I
think that we should all back the CMA Radio Player. It's one really good thing
that the CMA have come up with. Disregarding everything I have written just
now, I still believe that the CMA are genuine about furthering the community
sector, and and have our best interests at heart. I don't think the BBC ever
was or ever will be, and I really think the CMA should be more aware of the
thousands of volunteers and thousands of hours of hard work and top quality
radio, from both online and licensed radio that they are representing. And
bearing that in mind the CMA should be far more assertive instead of worrying
about upsetting their contacts.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>'nuff
said<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Peter
Vautier<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=3
face=SimSun><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>London</span></font></st1:place></st1:City>
Chinese Radio<o:p></o:p></p>
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10.5pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=SimSun><span lang=ZH-CN style='font-size:12.0pt;color:#666666;font-weight:
normal'>野火烧不尽，春风吹又生</span></font></b><font color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></h1>
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