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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Julian and All<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Firstly ……………
I asked for the opinion of all our fraternity a few months on the issue of the bog
standard payment for PRS ……. I got diddly squat reaction. Even
though the question was quite simple<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Has anyone paid over the £700 ??
not a difficult question and seeing as we are all not-for-profit and operate
very openly to our communities then answering the question in my opinion is NOT
an issue …………… if someone wishes to ask me about
our finances I am quite willing to give the information to that person even
down to dotting the I’s and crossing the T’s as I said I
drew a blank.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Will you draw a blank on this one I dunno’
……?? However, one thing is for sure, this Radio Bill of
2002 gets dafter and dafter as each day goes on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Example ……………..
we have a number of repeated shows, we have them for ALL the reasons given in
Julians statement (good lad / well written) we actually don’t have
a request show as such, as people (within reason) can request songs on ALL our
shows if a Presenter is in the studio.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We got a brilliant phone call only 3 weeks
from a Mr John Garner (who was listening to the 70’s show one Sunday
afternoon) he answered the TV teaser that Matt Isaacs set. The show was
repeated on the Thursday and included the teaser, even though no presenter was
in the studio ………. John Garner was listening to the show and
heard his name read out ‘again’ ……………….
He said to his Missus ‘’ I didn’t ring up did I’’
?? he spoke to me about it and found it quite amusing as
many others have.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In a world where people are starving, a
world where suicide bombers kill people in crowded markets, where people fight
for freedom and democracy, where people endure hardship, ill health and
disability I think some people should GET A LIFE ! Who
is this clown who rang Ofcom up in the first place ……. The person
is clearly a jerk and the person who answered the phone and went to the
committee with the complaint isn’t much better either.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We have had to endure the most ridiculous
red tape, bureaucracy, nonsense etc for 4 years, this is another addition to
the garbage ………………. I want to know when the
CMA are going to actually get some ‘blood on their boots’ and start
fighting this nonsense. There is 219 of us and if this isn’t a wake up
call then nothing is !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am not saying that we run round breaking
laws, I am not saying that we get into a battle with the dcms / ofcom ………….
What I am saying though is that we get in front of a Judge and see what he
thinks about all these rules and regulations, I also suggest you do what I am
doing …. Lobbying your MP untill he’s sick of the sight of you ……………….
We’ve already had some movement with a number of replies from Ed Vaizey
and reading between the lines a bit of optimism and common sense.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We appear ladies and gentlemen to be
surrounded by baffoons ……………………
everything that is designed in this bill to deliver good quality community
radio both on-air and off seems to be under attack from nonsense and nonsensical
ideas and rules …………………………….
We have only two options<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>1) Ignore it …. Roll over and
eventually die, by being beaten to death with unreasonable rules and
regulations or<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>2) Put up some kind of fight <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As I have said ….. people shouldn’t
always be chancers as after the judge has picked himself up off the floor with
laughter he may sway on the side of common sense.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would imagine (in answer to Julians
observation) that all 219 of us are in breach …………………………..
as long as no one is hurt, harmed, insulted or has died from a repeated
programme then ‘’so bloody what’’ !
WE DO NOT, WE NEVER HAD AND WE NEVER WILL DECEIVE OUR LISTENERS, AND IF ANYONE
AT THE DCMS THINKS THAT WE DO THEN I TAKE THAT AS AN INSULT !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As I have said ………………
for Gods sake ……… go and get a life !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Has the Station been fined ? if so,
then I suggest we do something about it as an organisation because this is a
sham, and a disgrace.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Julian Mellor<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 26 May 2011 09:27<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> CMA-L<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] is there anybody
in there?</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Earlier this week I saw Ofcom's ruling about a breach of the
broadcasting code by a community station not far from here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Apparently a request show was repeated, a member of the public called
in to speak to the presenter, was told that in fact the show was a repeat, and
so the said member of the public complained to Ofcom that the station was in
breach of rule 2.2 (not to materially mislead). Instead of find the
complaint malicious and trivial, Ofcom found against the station and said that
they had breached the trust of their listeners.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>This raised alarm bells for me as we repeat most of our programmes and
most invite listeners to email or text in with comments (and sometimes
requests). However, rarely, if ever, do presenters give a date stamp during
their programmes so the repeat could be perceived to be live (although there is
absolutely no intent to deceive or mislead and most listeners know our schedule
well enough or look at the website to see if its live or not). Equally
some presenters, especially newbies, often read out the contact details for
want of something to say, but then forget to check the emails (which could be
construed as deception).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I raised the issue with Ofcom of this seemingly draconian
interpretation of rule 2.2 (introduced to stop broadcasters running pseudo
competitions on premium lines) and pointed out that, as a community station
staffed entirely by volunteers, we don't have the capacity to monitor, enforce
and edit everything to the level they seem to be requiring. I said that
it would be likely to drive away presenters and stop us repeating anything.
Surely, I said, Ofcom does not want to constrain community
broadcasters in this way.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>They came back the same day (preferring to call rather than write) and
said it is indeed their intention to constrain broadcasters. The way
around it, they said, is for any repeated shows to give a date reference when
inviting listeners to make contact. Furthermore, presenters must
not invite contact if they are likely to forget to check the messages.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I sent out an instruction to our presenters and already one has come
back saying it will destroy his spontaneity and, given that he can't guarantee
that a date reference will always be given, he is withdrawing his repeats (4
hours of lost programming per week and many saddened listeners). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I instinctively react against people banging on about nanny states, red
tape etc, but this seems absolute madness and inspires me to move to Tunbridge
Wells from where I shall write to my MP.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>How does everyone else deal with the issue? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>(And for the avoidance of doubt this is written live at 9:15am on
Thursday 26 May but I may be away from my desk when you reply)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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Croft Cottage, <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">West St</st1:address></st1:Street>,
Wiveliscombe, <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Somerset</st1:City>, <st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">TA4 2JP</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:7.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Registered in <st1:country-region
w:st="on">England</st1:country-region> and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Wales</st1:place></st1:country-region> Number: 6004252<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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