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    Sorry, I was replying from my phone in frustration at reading that
    the best way forward was to give everyone the same - as been said a
    number of times on the list, it's a bad idea.<br>
    <br>
    Here's a suggestion to everyone who likes the idea of sharing out
    the whole fund and making good use of the £2,000 they receive. 
    Spend around the 2hrs or so that it takes to complete an Awards for
    All Lottery application, and if your project is sound, you're very
    likely to receive £10,000 - five years worth of evenly shared out
    Community Radio Fund awards.<br>
    <br>
    The key to all of this is outcomes - if you are delivering 'Social
    Gain', you are ticking 'outcome' boxes for most of the major
    funders.  That's where the real, and sustainable money is (i.e. 3-5
    year funding arrangements).<br>
    <br>
    Murray<br>
    <br>
     <br>
    <br>
    On 08/03/2011 20:03, Associated Broadcast Consultants wrote:
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:AANLkTink+J_a7LxtDTu1d4fD7Mp=xBQmxieW=Fb=Equn@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">Seems like a great idea to me.  Although some people
      think it's a "paltry sum", it would take our advertising a team a
      long time pounding the streets to raise £2k.  That amount could go
      a long way to paying some of the fixed costs.
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      <div>Regarding the "never happen" comment, the same could arguably
        said about creating a larger fund!<br>
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        <div>Glyn<br>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On 8 March 2011 16:33, Murray Dawson
            <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:murray@shmu.org.uk">murray@shmu.org.uk</a>&gt;</span>
            wrote:<br>
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              <div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-GB">I think we'll
                have to agree to differ on this one Nick/Trevor. <br>
                It'll never happen.<br>
                <br>
                Let's move on and concentrate on creating a larger fund.<br>
                <br>
                Murray<br>
                -- <br>
                <br>
                Murray Dawson<br>
                Project Director<br>
                Station House Media Unit<br>
                Station Road, Woodside<br>
                Aberdeen AB24 2WB<br>
                <br>
                t +44 1224 515013<br>
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                    <div class="gmail_quote">Office - ccr-fm &lt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:office@ccr-fm.co.uk"
                        target="_blank">office@ccr-fm.co.uk</a>&gt;
                      wrote:
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                              face="Arial" size="2"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Arial; color: navy;">Looks like one or
                                two are starting to
                                drift round to my way of thinking
                                ??        quite interesting really. Get
                                your
                                2K and THEN go back to your local MP and
                                ask the question     ‘’is
                                someone taking the Michael
                                ??’’                he might take you
                                seriously …………….. however, with some
                                getting
                                £30,000 and others getting sod-all our
                                whole ethos and the very basis of us
                                pleading poverty all the time goes out
                                the window.</span></font></p>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy"
                              face="Arial" size="2"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy"
                              face="Arial" size="2"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Arial; color: navy;">Have some faith in
                                your whinging Uncle
                                Nick ………….. at least try it for a couple
                                of years …………….
                                Anything is better than the shambles
                                we’ve got at the moment.</span></font></p>
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                              face="Arial" size="2"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
                                Arial; color: navy;">The pot would grow
                                of course by at least £100,000
                                coz’ you wouldn’t need a grants panel
                                !    just a monkey with a
                                cheque book …….. monkeeeee magic !</span></font></p>
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                              face="Arial" size="2"><span
                                style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
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                                  [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On
                                      Behalf Of </span></b>Ian Hickling<br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
                                  05 March 2011 16:34<br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
                                  cma-l<br>
                                  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b>
                                  [cma-l] Weekend Digest</span></font><span
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                                Whilst I appreciate Trevor's desperation
                                to get things done, sharing a paltry
                                sum equally is no solution.<br>
                                The only sensible way to allocate a
                                given sum is as at present - by
                                application
                                stressing need.<br>
                                But - as he says - we do need vastly
                                more funding in addition to that
                                which is available if you look - and
                                fight - really hard.<br>
                                All the CR stations we deal with need to
                                enhance their transmission systems to
                                capture more listeners and thereby
                                attract more funding.<br>
                                That would require a lot of money but it
                                also needs Ofcom to clear every
                                single new transmission application.<br>
                                Ofcom has said it cannot even consider
                                any such applications at present because
                                it has over 200 new potential stations
                                to process and new broadcasters
                                 have precedence over existing
                                licencees.<br>
                                That's another very real need that CMA
                                needs to address please.<br>
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                                Weekend Digest<br>
                                <br>
                                It's been a busy week, and I have some
                                comments to make. I must stress they are
                                my personal opinions, and do not reflect
                                the views of the Council, of which I
                                am an elected member.<br>
                                <br>
                                This week Nick said that he believed the
                                Community Radio Fund money should be
                                shared equally. Whilst it remains at
                                under £500K that gives each licensed
                                station about £2k. At my station it
                                means that our 100 volunteers can expect
                                a
                                cup of coffee occasionally. In any case
                                we give £850 to OfCom just to hold a
                                licence so the nett cost, after 20% VAT,
                                will be marginal.<br>
                                <br>
                                Importantly it means we can tell all our
                                listeners (is that an estimated 13
                                million) that we only receive £2K. I
                                think the BBC's 44 stations spent over
                                £600 million last year. So who gives
                                value for money? We should<br>
                                tell our listeners how we are treated.<br>
                                <br>
                                If everyone gets the same money there
                                will be no need for a committee to
                                decide
                                (I wonder what that costs in coffee and
                                biscuits?). It will certainly save
                                OfCom money.<br>
                                <br>
                                That anyone should judge whether a
                                licensed station is more worthy than
                                another
                                is not a valid argument. OfCom issued
                                the licence - so we are all worthy until
                                exposed as charlatans.<br>
                                <br>
                                Such a paltry sum can be turned into a
                                lever to make the government recognise
                                our value. We can provide services they
                                require - all they have to do is
                                recognise our existence.<br>
                                <br>
                                This raises a much wider problem. We are
                                all scrabbling around to find funders.
                                Many stations employ full-time
                                fundraisers, when it would be more
                                productive to
                                recognise the value of community media,
                                and to allow us to take over some of
                                the functions of local BBC, and to relax
                                the restrictive practices that
                                discourage entrepreneurship within our
                                sector.<br>
                                <br>
                                CMA should<br>
                                consider employing outside expertise,
                                and carefully chosen some of those could
                                also provide funding. Advertising
                                agencies, IT and equipment suppliers,
                                joint
                                licensing and many other options could
                                be considered.<br>
                                <br>
                                We have the opportunity to create a real
                                sense of national pride, to build
                                local communities, to train and support
                                local talent. We just need to be given
                                a modicum of support.<br>
                                <br>
                                Such financing can arise through
                                providing services. One significant
                                example is
                                that we should be the first suppliers to
                                the Central Office of Information. We
                                know we can provide services at a
                                competitive price and we have a deeper
                                reach
                                into society than any other media. <br>
                                <br>
                                I believe we should use the BSkyB
                                decision to further our aims and
                                aspirations.
                                A significant portion of the media is
                                now in the hands of one Australian and
                                his son. That helps my sense of national
                                pride, but importantly offers us all
                                an opportunity. We can provide local
                                news, and we<br>
                                can supply real information about the
                                mood of our people. Increasingly other
                                media are separated from the people.
                                Commercial radio agglomerates,
                                newspapers
                                and satellite stations are monopolistic.<br>
                                <br>
                                We are the only media in touch with real
                                people.<br>
                                <br>
                                I'll repeat these are my opinions - not
                                those of the Council.<br>
                                <br>
                                Trevor<br>
                                <br>
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