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Bill<BR>
Do you really believe that anyone should have to pay for simply copying music from one format to another?<BR>
At all?<BR>Surely - people who use music for gain should be the only ones who pay - and they should pay as and when they use it.<BR>
Simply having music stored in a retrieval system should not require any payment to anyone.<BR>
It's not actually doing anything.<BR>
This would make MCPS entirely redundant in a broadcasting environment.<BR>
Paying to record output for mandatory logging is utterly ridiculous.<BR>
Demanding that shop owners pay Royalties again when they are providing music from radio for which Royalties have aready been paid once - not as a "Public Performance" but on private premises - is fraudulent.<BR>
Radio stations should pay when they play, yes, but according to a realsitic measure of how many consumers they are serving.<BR>This would mean that CR stations will be paying very little.<BR>
Oh dear - how sad - never mind.<BR>
I've always said that Ofcom should deal with this - as they are all apparently legal requirements to broadcast - and bill with Licence Fees all in one go.<BR>
Surely not too much to ask?<BR>
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> From: bill.best@commedia.org.uk<BR>> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:50 +0000<BR>> To: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<BR>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] does anyone know ?<BR>> <BR>> Hi Nick<BR>> <BR>> Thanks for your email.<BR>> <BR>> Not quite sure what you are on about here but I'm guessing it is the<BR>> recent introduction of the mechanical rights licence (MCPS) at a flat<BR>> fee of £182.48 (plus VAT) for the period 1st October 2010 30th<BR>> September 2011.<BR>> <BR>> The situation was that up until this current licensing period, PRS for<BR>> Music did not have a scheme in place to cover the mechanical rights<BR>> licence. All previous licences from PRS for Music included the<BR>> following wording regarding the MCPS licence:<BR>> <BR>> "Your details will be held on file, and contact will be made once PRS<BR>> for Music is in a position to issue the licence. For budgeting please<BR>> allow the same minimum fee as PRS for Music, £607 plus VAT per licence<BR>> year."<BR>> <BR>> The CMA received news that PRS for Music was considering plans to<BR>> introduce a charge for the MCPS licence at a cost of up to the same<BR>> amount for the Performing Rights Licence (PRS) which is £636 for 1st<BR>> October 2010 30th September 2011 - effectively a 100% increase in<BR>> licence fees for community radio stations.<BR>> <BR>> The CMA vigorously argued against this 100% increase in the licence<BR>> fee for community radio stations and PRS for Music conceded to charge<BR>> a fee of £182.48 plus VAT for MCPS.<BR>> <BR>> The CMA will continue to argue for fair treatment of non-for-profit<BR>> community radio stations with regard to the licensing fees. For<BR>> example, only this week I attended a meeting of the Community Sector<BR>> Law Monitoring Group to discuss how copyright law is applied to our<BR>> sector and the CMA is still seeking further legal opinion to ensure<BR>> that community radio stations are treated fairly in comparison to<BR>> other voluntary and community sector organisations.<BR>> <BR>> Hope that helps and best regards<BR>> <BR>> Bill<BR>> -- <BR>> Community Media Association<BR>> http://www.commedia.org.uk/<BR>> http://twitter.com/community_media<BR>> Facebook Fans: http://bit.ly/cog8n5<BR>> <BR>> Canstream Internet Radio & Video<BR>> http://www.canstream.co.uk/<BR>> <BR>> On 25 February 2011 11:33, Office - ccr-fm <office@ccr-fm.co.uk> wrote:<BR>> > Dear All<BR>> ><BR>> > As it now seems to be kicking off on yet another front
(PRS)<BR>> > could someone (preferably from the CMA) (Jaqui / Bill ??) enlighten me as<BR>> > to what was actually negotiated with the PRS
..<BR>> > ? I was on the understand it was a bogged<BR>> > standard rate agreed by all parties.<BR>> ><BR>> > On the bureaucratic front would it not be sensible and easier for all<BR>> > concerned to simply be invoiced for the agreed amount
return the<BR>> > invoice with a signature and a cheque.<BR>> ><BR>> > Has something been agreed or has it not been agreed ?? or<BR>> >
was it negotiated with an option left in small print for the Ivory<BR>> > Towers troop to move the goalposts, as this is how it appears to me.<BR>> ><BR>> > Im just trying to establish what we are meant to be paying as a none<BR>> > business, not-for-profit group ? ( we could be very soon a charity as<BR>> > well.) The payments for the PRS are related to music used for our<BR>> > broadcasting I think<BR>> > ????????? so, I ask the question<BR>> > again
. Has anyone paid above the £700 ? How much ? and Why ?<BR>> ><BR>> > As a fraturnity and brotherhood can we also stop hiding in the trench<BR>> > waiting for others to fire the bullets and get a bad name for themselves<BR>> >
ie:- moi ! All I am attempting to do is to fight for a<BR>> > fair and simple system for everyone so that everyone is charged and pays<BR>> > their dues according to ability to pay. In fact I could go one further on<BR>> > this topic and ask why the CMA hasnt negotiated a special rate for those 16<BR>> > stations who are already struggling for funding regarding the adverts on air<BR>> > / sponsorship debacle as we appear to be getting crapped on from all<BR>> > angles
. We are not allowed to earn the money but have to fork out<BR>> > the same as everyone else
one rule for one and different rules for<BR>> > others.<BR>> ><BR>> > Well I aint certainly rolling over and dieing
Ill stand up and be<BR>> > counted. Once it is all put to bed maybe I will be able to join in the<BR>> > message board comminications on a positive note as opposed to negative angst<BR>> > all the time
.. not caused by me by the way.<BR>> ><BR>> > Nick<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> <BR>> Reply - cma-l@commedia.org.uk<BR>> <BR>> The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association - http://www.commedia.org.uk<BR>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/community_media<BR>> Facebook Fans: http://bit.ly/cog8n5<BR>> Canstream Internet Radio: http://www.canstream.co.uk/<BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> <BR>> To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<BR>> http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l<BR> </body>
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