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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Love it!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Yes, go
back to the days of the IBA. They sorted out Copyright. R&D, transmission
and other stuff.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">I wonder if
in these times it would be better. I think so. What a tragic failing in
regulation.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="" lang="EN-GB">Bob Tyler</span></p>
<br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 25/2/11, Ian Hickling <i><transplanfm@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Ian Hickling <transplanfm@hotmail.com><br>Subject: [cma-l] Music Royalties<br>To: "Bill Best" <bill.best@commedia.org.uk>, "cma-l" <cma-l@commedia.org.uk>, "office@ccr-fm.co.uk" <office@ccr-fm.co.uk><br>Date: Friday, 25 February, 2011, 14:59<br><br><div id="yiv1993617057">
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Bill<br>
Do you really believe that anyone should have to pay for simply copying music from one format to another?<br>
At all?<br>Surely - people who use music for gain should be the only ones who pay - and they should pay as and when they use it.<br>
Simply having music stored in a retrieval system should not require any payment to anyone.<br>
It's not actually doing anything.<br>
This would make MCPS entirely redundant in a broadcasting environment.<br>
Paying to record output for mandatory logging is utterly ridiculous.<br>
Demanding that shop owners pay Royalties again when they are providing music from radio for which Royalties have aready been paid once - not as a "Public Performance" but on private premises - is fraudulent.<br>
Radio stations should pay when they play, yes, but according to a realsitic measure of how many consumers they are serving.<br>This would mean that CR stations will be paying very little.<br>
Oh dear - how sad - never mind.<br>
I've always said that Ofcom should deal with this - as they are all apparently legal requirements to broadcast - and bill with Licence Fees all in one go.<br>
Surely not too much to ask?<br>
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> From: bill.best@commedia.org.uk<br>> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:50 +0000<br>> To: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] does anyone know ?<br>> <br>> Hi Nick<br>> <br>> Thanks for your email.<br>> <br>> Not quite sure what you are on about here but I'm guessing it is the<br>> recent introduction of the mechanical rights licence (MCPS) at a flat<br>> fee of £182.48 (plus VAT) for the period 1st October 2010 – 30th<br>> September 2011.<br>> <br>> The situation was that up until this current licensing period, PRS for<br>> Music did not have a scheme in place to cover the mechanical rights<br>> licence. All previous licences from PRS for Music included the<br>> following wording regarding the MCPS licence:<br>> <br>> "Your details will be held on file, and contact will be made once PRS<br>> for Music is in a position to issue the licence. For budgeting please<br>> allow the
same minimum fee as PRS for Music, £607 plus VAT per licence<br>> year."<br>> <br>> The CMA received news that PRS for Music was considering plans to<br>> introduce a charge for the MCPS licence at a cost of up to the same<br>> amount for the Performing Rights Licence (PRS) which is £636 for 1st<br>> October 2010 – 30th September 2011 - effectively a 100% increase in<br>> licence fees for community radio stations.<br>> <br>> The CMA vigorously argued against this 100% increase in the licence<br>> fee for community radio stations and PRS for Music conceded to charge<br>> a fee of £182.48 plus VAT for MCPS.<br>> <br>> The CMA will continue to argue for fair treatment of non-for-profit<br>> community radio stations with regard to the licensing fees. For<br>> example, only this week I attended a meeting of the Community Sector<br>> Law Monitoring Group to discuss how copyright law is applied to
our<br>> sector and the CMA is still seeking further legal opinion to ensure<br>> that community radio stations are treated fairly in comparison to<br>> other voluntary and community sector organisations.<br>> <br>> Hope that helps and best regards<br>> <br>> Bill<br>> -- <br>> Community Media Association<br>> http://www.commedia.org.uk/<br>> http://twitter.com/community_media<br>> Facebook Fans: http://bit.ly/cog8n5<br>> <br>> Canstream Internet Radio & Video<br>> http://www.canstream.co.uk/<br>> <br>> On 25 February 2011 11:33, Office - ccr-fm <office@ccr-fm.co.uk> wrote:<br>> > Dear All<br>> ><br>> > As it now seems to be ‘’’kicking off’’’ on yet another front ……… (PRS)<br>> > could someone (preferably from the CMA) (Jaqui / Bill ??) enlighten me as<br>> > to what was actually negotiated with the PRS …..<br>> >
? I was on the understand it was a bogged<br>> > standard rate agreed by all parties.<br>> ><br>> > On the bureaucratic front would it not be sensible and easier for all<br>> > concerned to simply be invoiced for the ‘agreed’ amount …… return the<br>> > invoice with a signature and a cheque.<br>> ><br>> > Has something been agreed or has it not been agreed ?? or<br>> > …………… was it negotiated with an option left in small print for the Ivory<br>> > Towers troop to move the goalposts, as this is how it appears to me.<br>> ><br>> > I’m just trying to establish what we are meant to be paying as a
none<br>> > business, not-for-profit group ? ( we could be very soon a charity as<br>> > well.) The payments for the PRS are related to music used for our<br>> > broadcasting I think<br>> > ????????? so, I ask the question<br>> > again …. Has anyone paid above the £700 ? How much ? and Why ?<br>> ><br>> > As a fraturnity and brotherhood can we also stop hiding in the trench<br>> > waiting for others to fire the bullets
and get a bad name for themselves<br>> > …………… ie:- moi’ ! All I am attempting to do is to fight for a<br>> > fair and simple system for everyone so that everyone is charged and pays<br>> > their dues according to ability to pay. In fact I could go one further on<br>> > this topic and ask why the CMA hasn’t negotiated a special rate for those 16<br>> > stations who are already struggling for funding regarding the adverts on air<br>> > / sponsorship debacle as we appear to be getting ‘crapped on’ from all<br>> > angles …………………………. We are not allowed to earn the money but have to fork out<br>> > the same as everyone else …………… one rule for one and different rules for<br>> > others.<br>> ><br>> > Well I ain’t certainly rolling over and dieing
…… I’ll stand up and be<br>> > counted. Once it is all put to bed maybe I will be able to join in the<br>> > message board comminications on a positive note as opposed to negative angst<br>> > all the time ……………….. not caused by me by the way.<br>> ><br>> > Nick<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> Reply - cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>> <br>> The cma-l mailing list is a members' service provided by the Community Media Association - http://www.commedia.org.uk<br>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/community_media<br>> Facebook Fans: http://bit.ly/cog8n5<br>> Canstream Internet Radio: http://www.canstream.co.uk/<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> <br>> To unsubscribe or manage your CMA-L mailing list subscription please visit:<br>> http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l<br>
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