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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Good one ……………….. don’t me going on the
hairdresser one ! a hairdresser pays PRS because they
listen to the radio and someone in the shop having a short back and thripenny
all off happens to be listening so this, so it constitutes an audience etc etc what
a load of crap ! the person has gone in the shop for the
sole purpose of having their hair cropped and not to listen to music.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If I go to the MEN to watch Keane …………. Then
I go for the music ………… not to have my haircut ………… Keane and all their enteourage
make money on it … so they pay !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>SIMPLES<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I keep telling you ………….. it’s a bloody
money making racket !!!!!! , providing of course we keep going along with it
like little lap dogs ! they can get stuffed, they’re avin
their £700 and they can swing for the rest ………………… I don’t even think we should
be giving em’ that much !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We had three programmes last night that
had about 80% each of speech.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m doing a programme next week on how to
write e-mails ………………….. should take up a whole week actually LOL<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Ian Hickling [mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 25 February 2011 15:00<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Bill Best; cma-l;
office@ccr-fm.co.uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Music Royalties</span></font><span
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Bill<br>
Do you really believe that anyone should have to pay for simply copying music
from one format to another?<br>
At all?<br>
Surely - people who use music for gain should be the only ones who pay - and
they should pay as and when they use it.<br>
Simply having music stored in a retrieval system should not require any
payment to anyone.<br>
It's not actually doing anything.<br>
This would make MCPS entirely redundant in a broadcasting environment.<br>
Paying to record output for mandatory logging is utterly ridiculous.<br>
Demanding that shop owners pay Royalties again when they are providing music
from radio for which Royalties have aready been paid once - not as a
"Public Performance" but on private premises - is fraudulent.<br>
Radio stations should pay when they play, yes, but according to a realsitic
measure of how many consumers they are serving.<br>
This would mean that CR stations will be paying very little.<br>
Oh dear - how sad - never mind.<br>
I've always said that Ofcom should deal with this - as they are all apparently
legal requirements to broadcast - and bill with Licence Fees all in one go.<br>
Surely not too much to ask?<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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> From: bill.best@commedia.org.uk<br>
> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:10:50 +0000<br>
> To: cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] does anyone know ?<br>
> <br>
> Hi Nick<br>
> <br>
> Thanks for your email.<br>
> <br>
> Not quite sure what you are on about here but I'm guessing it is the<br>
> recent introduction of the mechanical rights licence (MCPS) at a flat<br>
> fee of £182.48 (plus VAT) for the period 1st October 2010 – 30th<br>
> September 2011.<br>
> <br>
> The situation was that up until this current licensing period, PRS for<br>
> Music did not have a scheme in place to cover the mechanical rights<br>
> licence. All previous licences from PRS for Music included the<br>
> following wording regarding the MCPS licence:<br>
> <br>
> "Your details will be held on file, and contact will be made once PRS<br>
> for Music is in a position to issue the licence. For budgeting please<br>
> allow the same minimum fee as PRS for Music, £607 plus VAT per licence<br>
> year."<br>
> <br>
> The CMA received news that PRS for Music was considering plans to<br>
> introduce a charge for the MCPS licence at a cost of up to the same<br>
> amount for the Performing Rights Licence (PRS) which is £636 for 1st<br>
> October 2010 – 30th September 2011 - effectively a 100% increase in<br>
> licence fees for community radio stations.<br>
> <br>
> The CMA vigorously argued against this 100% increase in the licence<br>
> fee for community radio stations and PRS for Music conceded to charge<br>
> a fee of £182.48 plus VAT for MCPS.<br>
> <br>
> The CMA will continue to argue for fair treatment of non-for-profit<br>
> community radio stations with regard to the licensing fees. For<br>
> example, only this week I attended a meeting of the Community Sector<br>
> Law Monitoring Group to discuss how copyright law is applied to our<br>
> sector and the CMA is still seeking further legal opinion to ensure<br>
> that community radio stations are treated fairly in comparison to<br>
> other voluntary and community sector organisations.<br>
> <br>
> Hope that helps and best regards<br>
> <br>
> Bill<br>
> -- <br>
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> <br>
> On 25 February 2011 11:33, Office - ccr-fm <office@ccr-fm.co.uk>
wrote:<br>
> > Dear All<br>
> ><br>
> > As it now seems to be ‘’’kicking off’’’ on yet another front ………
(PRS)<br>
> > could someone (preferably from the CMA) (Jaqui / Bill
??) enlighten me as<br>
> > to what was actually negotiated with the PRS …..<br>
> >
?
I was on the understand it was a bogged<br>
> > standard rate agreed by all parties.<br>
> ><br>
> > On the bureaucratic front would it not be sensible and easier for all<br>
> > concerned to simply be invoiced for the ‘agreed’ amount …… return the<br>
> > invoice with a signature and a cheque.<br>
> ><br>
> > Has something been agreed or has it not been agreed
??
or<br>
> > …………… was it negotiated with an option left in small print for the
Ivory<br>
> > Towers troop to move the goalposts, as this is how it appears to me.<br>
> ><br>
> > I’m just trying to establish what we are meant to be paying as a none<br>
> > business, not-for-profit group ? ( we could
be very soon a charity as<br>
> > well.) The
payments for the PRS are related to music used for our<br>
> > broadcasting
I think<br>
> >
?????????
so, I ask the question<br>
> > again …. Has anyone paid above the £700
? How much
? and Why ?<br>
> ><br>
> > As a fraturnity and brotherhood can we also stop hiding in the trench<br>
> > waiting for others to fire the bullets and get a bad name for
themselves<br>
> > …………… ie:- moi’
! All I am
attempting to do is to fight for a<br>
> > fair and simple system for everyone so that everyone is charged and
pays<br>
> > their dues according to ability to pay. In fact I could go one
further on<br>
> > this topic and ask why the CMA hasn’t negotiated a special rate for
those 16<br>
> > stations who are already struggling for funding regarding the adverts
on air<br>
> > / sponsorship debacle as we appear to be getting ‘crapped on’ from
all<br>
> > angles …………………………. We are not allowed to earn the money but have to
fork out<br>
> > the same as everyone else …………… one rule for one and different rules
for<br>
> > others.<br>
> ><br>
> > Well I ain’t certainly rolling over and dieing
…… I’ll stand up and be<br>
> > counted. Once it is all put to bed maybe I will be able to join in
the<br>
> > message board comminications on a positive note as opposed to
negative angst<br>
> > all the time ……………….. not caused by me by the way.<br>
> ><br>
> > Nick<br>
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