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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Actually, I’m in it because I love
working with young people, elderly people, people with disabilities and I enjoy
sharing my experiences and passing on what knowledge I have (be it possibly
limited in some areas) …………………
however, I have been in radio a long time and decided with a few others to set
up a Community Radio Station for our area. One reason was because I had got so
brassed off with commercial radio and a lot of the clots that have now invaded
it ----- so in my opinion something needed to be done for our area.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I worked 48 hours a week from 2004 till
2008 for NOWT’ …………….. if I hadn’t,
we wouldn’t be here …………………..
others to volunteered to help set up our venture. The all did about 6 hours
each per-week.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My other job kept me going ……………
I still do my other job (entertainment) but when Canalside
was in its infancy if you add up the total hours it was peaking some weeks at
90 hours !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I now receive a wage as I co-ordinate what
goes on here. It was done via a vote and all above board …………..
to be honest, if I hadn’t have got the nod, I would have been a touch
brassed off …………………………………
we have others here who we NEED …………… and they
need to be paid as they have homes to run. However, having said all of this,
the wages that we receive are ‘’buttons’’ …………………
but, lots of buttons do add up.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Now I’d be interested where you get
all your volunteers from ? when I say volunteers, I mean ‘’real’’
volunteers and not old Billy who turns up once a week with his 60’s
records under his arm ……… plays what he likes, leaves the
studio a complete ………………..s…………………………………h…………………………………………it
hole and then you don’t see him again for a week !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’ve met many of these characters
over the years and if hospital radio is anything to go by the offices and
studios wouldn’t be fit to keep pigs in !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You guys have maybe got some magic formula
??? but surely, there must be more people there who spend
many more hours there than old Billy …. They steer the ship and ensure
that that there is at least some kinda’ system to work to. You can’t
of course have chimps doing this or else you will end up with a tea party.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you do have a number of guys or gals
there who do this?? ………………. Perhaps I could
ask ? Who pays their mortgages ???<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I could however be talking to a radio
station that has a benefactor or someone who runs the station because they own
an offshore Bank and don’t need to work ……………………
bully for whoever I say.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To answer the question, I am NOT here for
the wages ………… but, the amount of hours I put in to
ensure that everyone here enjoys what they do would make me feel pretty miffed
if I received nothing. Some of us by the way at the moment are on reduced
wages, but NOT reduced hours ….. in fact they have gone up.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I wish all stations continued success
whether or not they run on 75 grand / 50 grand / 5 grand or peanuts !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
david.gates@skylinecommunityradio.co.uk
[mailto:david.gates@skylinecommunityradio.co.uk] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 09 February 2011 10:20<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Office - ccr-fm<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Its all about the
money!!!</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Love all
this talk of 50k to run a station, we broadcast 24/7 18 hours live a day all
for 5K a year yes you read that right 5k a year and we are not going broke in
fact we are now in year six.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>So
guys/girls are you in community radio because you want to or for the
wages?????????<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Kind
Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>David
Gates<br>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Tue 2:22 PM , "Office - ccr-fm"
office@ccr-fm.co.uk sent:<o:p></o:p></span></b></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><DEFANGED_BODY lang=EN-GB link="blue" vlink="blue" bgcolor="white">Alex<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We should be OK long term then
??
what am I saying ??
!
long term ………….. the whole idea of my original comments
was that long term looks unlikely at the current rate of developments.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nevermind … we soldier on with will
power alone for now.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Two Lochs Radio [mailto:tlr@gairloch.co.uk] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 08 February 2011 13:45<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Office - ccr-fm; 'jaqui
devereux'; 'CMA-L'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] Charitable
Status</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Nick</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>It may not be easy to sustain a station on much less than
£50k total (though we do), but bear in mind that grant and donation income, and
wages expenditure are 'non-business' items outside the scope of VAT, so
don't count towards the threshold, which is based on your supply of goods and
services to others in the course of business. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Wages are often the largest outgoing for a small
community station. It is quite possible to be running a station
whose business outputs that are within the scope of VAT are well
below the threshold. Equally this is why it is possible for such a station
to be a net recipient of VAT repayment.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>You are only forced to register for VAT if your supply of
goods and services by way of regular business exceeds £70,000 per annum, not
your total turnover or ocaasional activities not falling within the meaning of
business.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Alex</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:office@ccr-fm.co.uk" title="office@ccr-fm.co.uk">Office - ccr-fm</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk"
title="jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk">'jaqui devereux'</a> ; <a
href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk" title="cma-l@commedia.org.uk">'CMA-L'</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Tuesday, February
08, 2011 11:31 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re: [cma-l]
Charitable Status<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jaqui n’ all<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hey ! I have spotted
something here ………… of course the discussion is about
V.A.T. …………… and Jaqui mentions the extra admin
and the hassle (we should be all use to it by now
anyway) but, the interesting fact is
this (as Rolf Harris would say ‘’have you guessed what it is
yet?)
Jaqui mentions ‘’near the threshold or
not’’
my observation is this ………………….. if
you ain’t anywhere near the threshold and trust me
…………… this last 12 months we have really slipped
away from that threshold may I ask the question ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>WHEN ARE YOU HOLDING YOUR CLOSING DOWN <u1:place u2:st="on"><u1:City u2:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">SALE</u1:City></u1:place></st1:place></st1:City>
?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you catch my drift?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>How does anyone survive on less than at
least fifty five grand …………….. here lies our
problem ……………………. We operated
this year on about £48,000 and now we are in the proverbial. We know the
illnesses and the symptoms, but the DCMS doctor won’t prescribe any
medicine …………………… I think
it’s a case of ‘’go and have a lie down, you’ll be OK
in a week or two’’
no we won’t Mr Doctor …………. We’re dying !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Croak croak gulp gulp
………….. ‘’Help !’’<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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