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<DIV>Hi All</DIV>
<DIV>Sods Law dictates that not long after my last input re VAT, I had a rather
disturbing telephone call from our Treasurer. Some weeks ago we had a letter
from HMRC why we had reclaimed so much more VAT than we paid. He gave them
details of our finances and they have now come up with the wonderful idea that
we can only claim VAT refund on items we have paid for with money we have earned
and not with money received as grants!</DIV>
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<DIV>We are going to seek advice on this but Id be very interested to learn if
anyone else has come across this one?</DIV>
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<DIV>Frankly, the VAT we might have to pay back is more than the pitiful amount
we have in reserve!</DIV>
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<DIV>Eddie</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Eddie
Winship<BR>Chair, Reading Community Radio. Reg Charity No. 1119557</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Streaming
as Reading4u on <A href="http://www.reading4u.co.uk">www.reading4u.co.uk</A>
<BR>Walford Hall, Carey Street, Reading RG1 7JS<BR>Tel: 0118 327 9774</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=transplanfm@hotmail.com
href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com">Ian Hickling</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, February 05, 2011 6:57 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=office@ccr-fm.co.uk
href="mailto:office@ccr-fm.co.uk">office@ccr-fm.co.uk</A> ; <A
title=info@a-bc.co.uk href="mailto:info@a-bc.co.uk">Glyn Gloss</A> ; <A
title=cma-l@commedia.org.uk href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [cma-l] Charitable Status</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none"><BR>As
I have said many times - the obvious solution is to run three businesses
concurrently:<BR> <BR>1 - The Community Radio station as a CIC which does
not return a profit.<BR>2 - A Charitable arm which can accept charitable
donations which does not retrun a profit and feeds the station.<BR>3 - A
commercial limited company which can return a profit from a wide range of
activities, is VAT-registered and feeds the station.<BR> <BR>It's sensible
business practice - not rocket science.<BR> <BR>To lose that much VAT by
default is just plain stupid - sorry!<BR> <BR>
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From: office@ccr-fm.co.uk<BR>To: info@a-bc.co.uk; cma-l@commedia.org.uk<BR>Date:
Sat, 5 Feb 2011 14:34:48 +0000<BR>Subject: Re: [cma-l] charity status<BR><BR>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Glyn n
all</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thanks Glyn
. As I
said
. It looks like everyone is fumbling around in the dark. Either we can as
a fraturnity / brotherhood or we cant
.. which is it
. ?? I
dunno?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Nick</SPAN></FONT></P>
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lang=EN-US>From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" lang=EN-US>
glyn.m.roylance@googlemail.com [mailto:glyn.m.roylance@googlemail.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Associated Broadcast
Consultants<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 04 February
2011 22:59<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Office -
ccr-fm<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> CMA-L<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [cma-l] charity
status</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Yes we had the same experience. Essentially we
discovered that a community radio station could not be a charity unless it
fulfilled one of a number of narrow categories . ie: if we decided to be a
religious radio station then bingo, but we did not want to go that
way.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Instead we went down the CIC route. It was "sold"
to us as being equivalent to being a charity, but from a recent approach from
Inland Revenue I think it might have some drawbacks compared to being a charity
(they seem to treat us like any other ommercial Ltd company) - but I'm not an
expert.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Glyn Roylance</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">GLOSS FM.org</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 4 February 2011 18:16, Office - ccr-fm <<A
href="mailto:office@ccr-fm.co.uk">office@ccr-fm.co.uk</A>>
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dear All</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Just a quick enquiry
. Does
anyone know how many Community Radio Stations in our fraturnity/brotherhood are
actually charities ?? I know that we looked into it 7
years ago but the process was a complete nightmare. Also, in 2004 I clearly
remember that the Charities commision simply had NO category for radio
.. it
was almost as if they didnt understand it
>?>?
I think the key to it and the crux of the matter was that we were technically
all over the place in what we were providing
in otherwords, providing a
lot, but nothing specific
!
almost a jack of all
trades but master of none</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Have any of you guys had a similar
experience
?
I seem to recall that there is a station on the south coast as a charity
??
plus Regen (near to us) in South
Manchester who do run Wythenshawe FM and ALL FM
outside of that, Im a
bit clueless to be honest
. Any ideas ?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">What about Sheffield and of course
the CMA ?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Many thanks</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=ecxMsoNormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Nick</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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