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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Our experience exactly ……………… confusing to
say the least ………thanks Trev thanks Julie………… I’m glad you didn’t write an
e-mail as long as mine …. Looking at the ins and outs and complications I was
about to reach for the ‘rope’ !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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trevor@felixstoweradio.co.uk [mailto:trevor@felixstoweradio.co.uk] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 04 February 2011 22:52<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Julie@rwsfm.co.uk; Office -
ccr-fm<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> CMA-L<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] charity
status</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=1 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Julie<br>
<br>
For <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Suffolk</st1:place></st1:City> and
to make a small start I've registered Media Fish Suffolk with HMRC, to gain
charitable status, which allows us to accept under £5,000 pa without
registering. It's early days but remember that your station may spawn and
support activities that can be regarded as charities - I'll not provide an
exhaustive list here.<br>
<br>
A community station could have several legal entities. I prefer Community
Interest Company, by guarantee or shares and I started a Ning group,
http://cicassoc.ning.com that now has over 1,000 members - and influence with
the CIC Regulator and other agencies. Your station could also have a trading
arm as a private limited company, by guarantee or with shares, and it could be
a simple association with a constitution. Or it could be all of these, and
there are other options.<br>
<br>
As a charity it may be possible to attract more funds - the CIC Regulator is
supporting claims for equality - we shall see. A registered charity does
require an additional commitment, and more administration - and so serious
consideration must be given.<br>
<br>
I'll not enter the murky world of trust funds, legacies and gambling
(lotteries... perhaps).<br>
<br>
As voluntary groups we face enormous challenges - and penalties if we get it
wrong. Don't be dismayed by the bureaucracy, don't believe that charitable
status is always worthwhile.<br>
<br>
There's a useful guide for trustees at http://trusteelearning.org/<br>
<br>
Keep going.<br>
<br>
Trevor<br>
<br>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>From: Julie@rwsfm.co.uk<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Sent: 04/02/11 09:23 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>To: Office - ccr-fm<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=1 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Subject: Re: [cma-l] charity status<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><pre style='white-space:pre-wrap;word-wrap: break-word'><font size=2
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Guys <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>We were a registered charity when we were hospital radio, I then spent <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>9 months arguing the toss with the Charity Commission on how we were <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>just branching out in to the community. The response from the CC was <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>that not everything community radio does is of a "charitable nature" <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>unlike hospital radio which releaves the sick. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>You are correct in saying that the CC have no category for radio, and <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>as far as I am aware have no intention of changing that anytime soon. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>My advice, don't waste your time and energy unless the CMA are <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>prepared to take it up with Charity Commission, however, I did bring <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>this up with Jacqui last year. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Julie MacLeod <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Station Manager <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Quoting Office - ccr-fm <office@ccr-fm.co.uk>: <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Dear All <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Just a quick enquiry ....... Does anyone know how many Community Radio <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Stations in our fraturnity/brotherhood are actually charities ?? I know <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> that we looked into it 7 years ago but the process was a complete nightmare. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Also, in 2004 I clearly remember that the Charities commision simply had NO <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> category for radio ... it was almost as if they didn't understand it >?>? <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> I think the key to it and the crux of the matter was that we were <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> technically ''all over the place'' in what we were providing ... in <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> otherwords, providing a lot, but nothing specific ! <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> almost ''a jack of all trades but master of none'' <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Have any of you guys had a similar experience ? I seem <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> to recall that there is a station on the south coast as a charity ?? <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> plus Regen (near to us) in <st1:place
w:st="on">South Manchester</st1:place> who do run Wythenshawe <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> FM and ALL FM ...... outside of that, I'm a bit clueless to be honest ... <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Any ideas ? <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> What about <st1:place
w:st="on">Sheffield</st1:place> and of course the CMA ? <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Many thanks <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Regards <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Nick <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>_______________________________________________ <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>cma-l mailing list - cma-l@commedia.org.uk <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Community Media Association - http://www.commedia.org.uk <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Twitter: http://twitter.com/community_media <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Facebook Fans: http://bit.ly/cog8n5 <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Canstream Internet Radio: http://www.canstream.co.uk/ <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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<span id="editor_signature">Trevor Lockwood<br>
Chairman Felixstowe Radio<br>
Vice Chairman Suffolk Association Voluntary Organisations<br>
Director Community Media Association<br>
Trustee Media Fish <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Suffolk</span></st1:place></st1:City></span></font>
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