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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear All<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Interesting ….. very interesting
indeed. It also sums up, and backs up everything that I have been saying on
this message board since July last year ! Canalside Radio is
struggling big time at the moment ……. Why
? REASON BEING ………… = we have
been doing this big society / voluntary / soft touch / nicey nicey for 6 years ……………..
where has it got us ……………… absolutely
nowhere.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We need to continue with the work that we
do, we must NEVER abandon that …… if not on anything else but on a
MORAL ISSUE ….. however, we MUST box clever. We must continue to give
people training and offer opportunities to those who quite frankly may struggle
in the media industry, but at least they can ‘have a go radio’ and
enjoy what they do.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We do need to be careful though ………..
the airwaves mustn’t be a free-for-all and we must reserve the right to
have the ‘better ones’ on-air and then apply the rule (damage
limitation) at other times during programming. We have made this mistake, and
possibly paid for it at times. We will not discriminate but we will tread
carefully.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This may seem drastic, but our only hope
now is to box clever AND get in the boxing ring on ALL accounts ……………
we need listeners, we need more listeners, so that this view of the fact that
:-<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>No one listens to us<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>We are voluntary meaning that everything is free<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>We are mugs<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>We are a nonentity<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Etc etc etc :- is blown out
of the water !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m sick to death of it …………………..
I am also going to post something on the site relating to a ding dong that I
have been having with the PRS …………….. these
characters at the Government / Councils / Licencing offices etc etc NEED TO
MAKE THEIR BLOODY MINDS UP ! AND STOP MOVING THE GOALPOSTS …………………it
is time to stand up and be counted !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am prepared to let them choose ………………
if they ALL want us to be ALL of these things mentioned above, then that is
fine by me ….. & if you require all of this from me for free
--------- I will willingly give it to you for free ……………….
CENSUS n’ all ……………………………
However, once we have shakin on it ……….. don’t send me
any more bloody bills for PRS / PPL / AIRWAVES / OFCOM LICENSE etc etc etc ……………
furthermore, give each station £10,000 grand at the beginning of each year out
of BBC monies or a community radio fund and I’ll gladly do all these
things for free …………….. I’ll also come
round and tidy up, brew up and spring clean.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Untill then …………………
take your census and anything else that you’ve got and stick it right
where the sun doesn’t shine !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>That’s my view and it ain’t
changing. As of 1<sup>st</sup> January 2011 Canalside does nowt’ unless
we get a little tickle ! if the group are a local not-for-profit
community group then that is a different story, but when it is a conglomerate
or an institution or a big organisation awash with money, and they for some
convenient reason decide to relate the same old / same old back to us ………………..
‘’OH ! WE’VE SPENT OUR BUDGET’’ then it’s
NO ! you ain’t spent any of it on us.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The CMA have their chance now …………..
you now have an opportunity to stand up for all of us ………………………
tell em to PEE-OFF<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This is a classic example of if we were
operating correctly (these monies) (so called monies) would be paid to the CMA
and then the CMA distributes it to us.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Have we actually got a voice -----------
ONE VOICE ……… singing from the one hymn sheet for all of us
? at present we seem to be a little higgledy piggledy, we know what we want,
we know what we need but the message doesn’t seem to be hitting home ..
we could get really noticed I suppose stripping off and all running up <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Whitehall</st1:place></st1:City> naked ……………………..
not really one for the ladies, but the gentlemen would get away with it ……………….
We could tatoo CMA on our thingys ???<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’ll have The Community Radio
Association on mine, hows that ? er not !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On a brighter note ……………………..
only this evening, myself and some volunteers have a fabulous time with a load
of youngsters who don’t go to school, some of them are N.E.E.T. as well,
and they have had a fabulous time …………… I will do
this for nowt’ untill the cows come home ---- that is what we are about ………….
I’m saying no more on the matter <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>
HAVE SOME GUTS AND TELL EM !” for Gods sake and for the sake of all us …..
speak up and speak out<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>And before anyone replies with the obvious
………. Yes it is a rant ………… it’s
meant to be !<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I love this Country and I love its
diversity, its tolerance and if we can help this census in someway, then we
should …….. but not for absolutely nothing ….. not even a
sausage ………….. someone has clearly got something
muddled up er unless I’m the one that’s muddled ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>By the way ……………
we’ve heard nowt ‘ ! regarding the census ….<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>jaqui devereux<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 25 January 2011 12:55<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Shane Carey<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> CMA-L<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cma-l] National
Census, Cabinet Office, Written answers and statements, 17 January 2011</span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dear all<br>
<br>
We are writing to ONS on this matter and hope to hear something a bit more
favourable in the near future, we will keep you posted<br>
<br>
Best wishes<br>
<br>
Jaqui<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Jaqui Devereux<br>
Director, Community Media Association<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 25 January 2011 11:26, Shane Carey <<a
href="mailto:shane@eclectic-productions.co.uk">shane@eclectic-productions.co.uk</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I've been working alongside LA's in our coverage area to help promote<br>
the Census, and although some have committed funds towards a media<br>
campaign, most aren't committing much because of their cuts.<br>
<br>
The ONS have (up until the announcement below) said they've committed<br>
all of their media budget on a mainstream campaign, which is why the<br>
local authorities have coughed up some.<br>
<br>
I spoke with the ONS Press and Media Office about the announcement<br>
below, as there seemed to be no knowledge of it with the area<br>
co-ordinators. The office also seemed unaware of it - I pushed further,<br>
asking how they intended to use Community Media, and they re-iterated<br>
that they had no budget, but would hope that Community stations would<br>
promote the Census campaign for free as its good for their areas.<br>
<br>
The best case scenario here is that some strategy realising that there<br>
are many people who won't be effectively targeted through mainstream<br>
media has been discussed, but not relayed down the ranks.<br>
<br>
What I suspect has happened however, is that the ONS have been pushed by<br>
MP's for an answer on how to reach the particularly hard to count - and<br>
responded with 'Community Media'. The answer I got from their media<br>
office underlines a government perception of community media as free,<br>
voluntary, and probably part of the Big Society plan where nothing costs<br>
anything and everyone (but the private sector) works for nothing.<br>
<br>
Has anybody heard anything regarding the announcement about an actual<br>
plan, or an understanding of how to use community media?<br>
<br>
Shane<br>
Reprezent FM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>]
On Behalf Of CMA-L<br>
Sent: 18 January 2011 18:19<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>
Subject: [cma-l] National Census, Cabinet Office, Written answers and<br>
statements, 17 January 2011<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Office for National Statistics (ONS) is considering the use of<br>
"community media"<br>
to publicise the England & Wales 2011 Census on 27th March.<br>
<br>
Lyn Brown (West Ham, Labour):<br>
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::<br>
To ask the Minister for the Cabinet Office what steps his Department<br>
has taken to ensure that the 2011 Census captures accurate population<br>
data for areas with high levels of (a) ethnic and cultural diversity<br>
and (b) population change.<br>
<br>
Nick Hurd (Parliamentary Secretary (Civil Society), Cabinet Office;<br>
Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner, Conservative):<br>
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::<br>
::::::::::::::::::::::::<br>
The information requested falls within the responsibility of the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
Statistics Authority. I have asked the authority to reply.<br>
<br>
Letter from Stephen Penneck (Director General, ONS):<br>
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::<br>
:::::::<br>
Publicity and community media:<br>
-----------------------------------------------<br>
ONS is increasing publicity and communication with a wide range of<br>
stakeholders and the general public. ONS plans to use different<br>
methods depending on the audience needing to be targeted. There will<br>
be a national advertising campaign including TV, press, radio, and<br>
online advertising as well as billboards, and transport advertising<br>
(such as tube, bus etc). Publicity will also be tailored to reach many<br>
target population groups such as black and minority ethnic groups and<br>
young people. As <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">London</st1:place></st1:City>
has a large concentration of these groups it<br>
will benefit, in particular, from this approach.<br>
<br>
The publicity campaign will focus on the importance of the census in<br>
identifying the needs of different communities so that local and<br>
national government, and other service providers, can deliver what the<br>
community needs. The campaign puts this principle at the very centre<br>
of all communication and marketing.<br>
<br>
Hansard source (Citation: HC Deb, 17 January 2011, c533W):<br>
<br>
<a
href="http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmhansrd/cm110117/text%0A/110117w0003.htm#11011724000415"
target="_blank">http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmhansrd/cm110117/text<br>
/110117w0003.htm#11011724000415</a><br>
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