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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Martin,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What amazes me is that Commercial Radio want us, via the BBC&#8217;s license fee, to spend £200 Million on old technology to upgrading DAB so that it has the same coverage as FM. For similar money we could practically achieve that by using  DRM+ across the whole country. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>DRM is a multiplex system if that&#8217;s the way its set up. It can also be used to broadcast single stations.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Good News?.. The reason this DRM+ trial is good news is that there would be no chance of DRM+ being adopted in the UK without one &#8211; It&#8217;s a necessary first step. The trial is being run by the BBC (thanks Ian) who previously carried out a DRM trial in Cornwall, with not very good results. I guess there is still a  need for them to move their AM stations?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The best thing about DRM+ is the way it is able work alongside existing FM broadcasts on VHF &#8211; the receiver switches to whichever is best. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alan   <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>mark polden<br><b>Sent:</b> 09 January 2011 9:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> martin@martinsteers.co.uk; transplanfm@hotmail.com; CMA-L<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] DRM+<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Correct me if I am wrong but I always understood that DRM was not a multiplexed system so therefore the cost would remain with the broadcaster, which would be better for this sector although you would all have the same problems as we are having with MW in siting an antenna with planning permission and greenbelt<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Mark Polden<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Flame CCR<o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=stopSpelling></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:35:07 -0800<br>From: <a href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>; <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] DRM+<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I have to disagree slightly, although i see an upgrade from DAB to another system in the future (similar to Freeview to HD Freeview etc) its a long way off in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We are going to be using DAB for another 5-10 years at least..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Because its all down to money at the end of the day.. Unless the government wants to spend alot of money on a new network, transmissions costs etc then its not going to happen..<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Do you think commercial radio groups and stations would replace technology, do you think multiplex operators will pay for another / new licence and kit...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Do you think the public will replace their DAB radios? (which arent compatible, although most new Digital radios can work on other systems there are still tens of thousands of current sets that are DAB only) or do you think they will agree to the Government and BBC spending lots of money to replace the system.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>What we really need is for all broadcasters to get behind it and work together, and ideally more spending by the&nbsp;government&nbsp;on transmitters, publicity, radio exchanges who knows what else... and an&nbsp;inclusive&nbsp;plan forward that includes community broadcasters and the promoted&nbsp;longevity&nbsp;of FM as well as DAB.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Digital radio is good for everyone, the listener with more choice and maybe better quality, the stations with more opportunities.. including community radio stations<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Ian Hickling &lt;transplanfm@hotmail.com&gt;<br><b>To:</b> martin@martinsteers.co.uk; cma-l &lt;cma-l@commedia.org.uk&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Sun, 9 January, 2011 10:08:19<br><b>Subject:</b> [cma-l] DRM+<br></span><span style='color:black'><br>&nbsp;<br>My view is that it's excllent news.<br>Digital radio is certainly here to stay.<br>DAB frankly isn't.<br>We'll have to endure its shortcomings whilst enjoying its benefits - and see negligeable expansion other than that entirely caused by&nbsp;blind political pressure.<br>It illustrates a headlong rush to unilaterally achieve a poorly-conceived&nbsp;goal&nbsp;without the right research or the correct level of collaboration with the rest of the world-wide Industry.<br>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center id=ecxstopSpelling></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 07:22:06 -0800<br>From: <a href="mailto:martin@martinsteers.co.uk">martin@martinsteers.co.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] Fwd: DRM+ tests in the UK<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>This isnt great news.. good and interesting granted.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I have nothing against trailing an system and seeing what happens.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>HOWEVER as a radio industry there has to be a continuation of the digital expansion and migration, to attempt to alter the plan now</span><span class=ecxapple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;at this stage would be&nbsp;disastrous.</span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>DAB no matter what peoples thoughts are, is here to stay for a while.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> Alan Coote &lt;alan.coote@btinternet.com&gt;<br><b>To:</b> jaqui devereux &lt;jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk&gt;; cma-l &lt;cma-l@commedia.org.uk&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Fri, 7 January, 2011 17:16:30<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] Fwd: DRM+ tests in the UK<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>At last!!!!!,<br><br>Although it doesn't seem as Ofcom are actively involved. Anyone know if they<br>have just sanctioned the trial for DRM Consortium to run? And where will be<br>result go?<br><br>Alan<br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>[mailto:<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] On Behalf Of jaqui devereux<br>Sent: 06 January 2011 2:23 PM<br>To: cma-l<br>Subject: [cma-l] Fwd: DRM+ tests in the UK<br><br>Dear all<br><br>You might be interested in this - DRM+ trials in Scotland<br><br>Will keep you posted when we get more information<br><br>Best wishes and Happy New Year to you all<br><br>Jaqui<br><br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Christer Hederström | Ideosphere &lt;<a href="mailto:christer.hederstrom@comhem.se">christer.hederstrom@comhem.se</a>&gt;<br>Date: 6 January 2011 13:22<br>Subject: [Members_cmfe] DRM+ tests in the UK<br>To: CMFE Members &lt;<a href="mailto:members_cmfe@lists.freie-radios.at">members_cmfe@lists.freie-radios.at</a>&gt;<br><br><br>DRM+ trial in the UK in first quarter of 2011<br><br>The DRM Digital Radio Mondiale standard was extended in 2009 to add an<br>additional mode for operation in the VHF broadcasting bands (known as<br>DRM+), enhancing the established capability of DRM for digital radio<br>services in the bands below 30 MHz.<br><br>DRM provides many features to allow user-friendly, high quality radio to be<br>broadcast, including use of station names rather than frequencies,<br>consistent digital audio, additional text and visualisation, an EPG,<br>alternate service signalling, and automatic service following to DRM, DAB,<br>FM and AM services.<br><br>After the successful trial in Sri Lanka (November 2010) the DRM Consortium<br>will mount a comprehensive DRM+ trial in the UK. The trial will take place<br>in the Edinburgh area of Scotland in the first quarter of 2011. &nbsp;Its<br>objectives are:<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&#8226; To measure the coverage of DRM+ operating in various transmission<br>modes (lower capacity, higher ruggedness; higher capacity, lower<br>ruggedness)<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&#8226; To compare the coverage of FM and DRM+ in terms of transmit power<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&#8226; To assess the impact of DRM+ on FM and vice-versa<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&#8226; To demonstrate the performance of DRM+ in a range of environments<br>throughout the coverage area, for example, urban, suburban, rural, etc., and<br>therefore provide an analysis of performance in the presence of multipath<br>interference, terrain shielding, man-made obstructions, etc., in both strong<br>and weak signal areas;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&#8226; To measure the pattern of the antenna in order to correlate<br>performance in different directions with expected performance;<br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&#8226; To provide suitable measurement data to international regulatory<br>bodies, such as CEPT and ITU.<br>(Source: DRM Consortium)<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Members_cmfe mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Members_cmfe@lists.freie-radios.at">Members_cmfe@lists.freie-radios.at</a><br><a href="http://lists.servus.at/mailman/listinfo/members_cmfe" target="_blank">http://lists.servus.at/mailman/listinfo/members_cmfe</a><br><br><br><br>--<br>Jaqui Devereux<br>Director, Community Media Association<br>_______________________________________________<br><br>cma-l mailing list - <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br><br>Community Media Association - <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/" target="_blank">www.commedia.org.uk</a><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>To manage your mailing list subscription please visit:<br><a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l" target="_blank">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>cma-l mailing list - <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br><br>Community Media Association - <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/" target="_blank">www.commedia.org.uk</a><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>To manage your mailing list subscription please visit:<br><a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l" target="_blank">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><br>_______________________________________________ cma-l mailing list - <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a> Community Media Association - <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">www.commedia.org.uk</a> _______________________________________________ To manage your mailing list subscription please visit: <a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l" target="_blank">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>_______________________________________________ cma-l mailing list - <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a> Community Media Association - <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk">www.commedia.org.uk</a> _______________________________________________ To manage your mailing list subscription please visit: <a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>