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<FONT FACE="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:11pt'>This is all well and good but let me present another view just for balance. Imagine yourself in my shoes back in the 80’s making a living from writing songs and hoping to get paid for it. So many times you don’t get paid either for airplay (smaller stations where there is no logging) or for actual sales. e.g. by the time I learned a very big international star had recorded one of my songs some 20 years earlier it was way beyond the statute of limitations on royalties and I got nothing. Another very well known act did a 100 date worldwide stadium tour and sold her CD at the venues. The CD featured a “Free” bonus CD with out-takes and previously unreleased songs. My song was on that “free” CD and was apart from her vocal was not really hers to give away. I’ve still not been paid for this use of my copyright. I find my product all over the web on re-packaged compilations and worse still my lyrics all over not even credited to me. I’ve gotten used to it and thankfully no longer rely on the income but that doesn’t make it right.<BR>
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On 27/10/2010 19:18, "Office - ccr-fm" <<a href="office@ccr-fm.co.uk">office@ccr-fm.co.uk</a>> wrote:<BR>
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I like Richards comments ……………… I think his slant sums everything up for me …. That is the difference between the yanks and us …………. That has got to be the best I’ve heard … I’m chuckling away.<BR>
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WE ‘’what what, tally ho tally ho !’’ the british assume that if it is played on the radio people won’t by it …… ! ? look, that might be the case for Des O’Connor<BR>
And Jedward (Deadwood) but it simply is not true. And for these clots to be trying to hoodwink us with their system is a nonsense.<BR>
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If I go to M&S’s clothing department next week and by a couple of their top range suits I put money in the pockets of their shareholders, staff, tailors, suppliers ……… I take my receipt and I say ‘’thank you very much, have a good day’’ …………………………………….. I don’t go out in it that evening, and then again on Monday and then to a wedding on Saturday and christening on Sunday and each time I do I report it to some organisation who collects royalties from it ………………… bearing in mind, how many times has someone walked up to you and …………… hey nice suit …… where did you get it from ? they go out and get one. (PROMOTION AGAIN)<BR>
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I buy a car, I drive it …………… maybe as a taxi ……………………. ? each time I drive it I don’t pay volkswaggon or skoda or renault a fee. People see it and maybe think, I like that, I’ll buy one. Who thought this bloody prs system up in the first place ? they want shooting !<BR>
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Like I’ve said …………… who is doing who the favour ? plus, we are not for profit.<BR>
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It is time the whole outlook on it was changed. Changed by democracy …. If not, then by protest. Slavery was accepted for hundreds and hundreds of years … it didn’t make it right …….. somebody somewhere had to come forward and say ‘’eh up mate, I think we’ve got this slightly wrong’’ ‘’the had to fight for what they believed in’’ we know it was right to, and that is why it has been defeated, beaten, put to bed, got rid of ………………… people have to be MADE TO LISTEN.<BR>
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Instead, we get people making little rules to suit themselves, and everyone else just goes along with it. This PRS / PPL malarky is nonsense.<BR>
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These guys don’t worry me, nor does nonsense ……….. why ? because what is right and what is correct will always SHINE THROUGH IN THE END.<BR>
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Thank you ladies and gentlemen ………………. Tell prs that my bill to them is in the post.<BR>
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<B>Sent:</B> 27 October 2010 15:06<BR>
<B>To:</B> Richard Berry; <a href="office@ccr-fm.co.uk">office@ccr-fm.co.uk</a><BR>
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<B>Subject:</B> Community Radio Music Royalties<BR>
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If we stick to the underlying principle that musicians should be paid for the use of their work and that more customer exposure implies more benefit, then the logical way to organise the tariff would be by listenership.<BR>
Simple enough for stations in Rajar, and not beyond the wit of man to gauge the audience levels of CRs based on their postcode coverage and an agreed proportion of the allied populations. RSLs would pay a standard lump sum based on their allocated power and the population density in their notional coverage.<BR>
All collected within the same process used for licensing so you just don't get on air if you don't pay!<BR>
The principle of being charged for simply holding and/or copying music as opposed to actually using it is illogical and unfair and should be stopped.<BR>
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To: <a href="office@ccr-fm.co.uk">office@ccr-fm.co.uk</a><BR>
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 12:27:09 +0100<BR>
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Subject: Re: [cma-l] Community Radio Royalties<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080"><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10pt'>Correct me if I am wrong, but if I go into a shop and I buy a Robbie Williams song or Katy Perry’s new single ……. Do those artists receive any money from that sale ?? I would argue that they do ! how much they get after the agents, the record company, the advertisers, the sharks, leeches and waterbugs have all had a nibble is possibly anyones guess ?? but ……….. that is certainly none of my business and quite frankly I couldn’t give a monkeys cuss ! I’ll leave them to squabble amongst themselves.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080"><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10pt'>We are a NOT-FOR-PROFIT venture, and we can prove it ……………….. so ……….. the moral of the story is that we ARE NOT making bucks out of someone elses talent or hard work ….. we are by the very nature of what we do ‘Radio’ helping these guys raise their profile and thus promote their music sales.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080"><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10pt'>Someone may say …….. well what about a pub or a bar and their PRS etc ?? I reply …………….. ‘’yes, but there is a huge difference between about 70 people in a pub and the potential audience that we broadcast to ! as I said recently to the gentleman at PRS / PPL ……….. who is doing who the favour ?? I said to him, that HE SHOULD BE PAYING ME ! AND NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND ! it is yet another legal debacle that gets right up my nose.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080"><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10pt'>In fact, some people who stick a song on a jukebox do so because they heard it on CCR ?!<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080"><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10pt'>As in this e-mail ping pong some of our fraturnity/brotherhood state that they use a lot of speech and a lot of music that ain’t PRS associated ……………… WE PAY for most of our music ……………….. perhaps the PRS could have a word with sony and the likes to start sending ALL their music to us so at least we can save some money aside to pay them.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000080"><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10pt'>Mr Williams has a look at us on the website and sez’ to himself ‘’what mugs’’ they buy my record, they promote me and I get a nice little tickle as well from royalties<BR>
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<B>Sent:</B> 27 October 2010 08:42<BR>
<B>To:</B> Peter Vautier; Trevor Lockwood<BR>
<B>Cc:</B> cma-l<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> [cma-l] Community Radio Royalties<BR>
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I'm in a cleft stick here.<BR>
I believe that people who make music should be properly rewarded for their art - but at the same time the present system appears to be illogical, secretive and unfair.<BR>
Has any broadcaster ever told the societies that they're not paying their exhorbitant arbitrary and unexplained fees and to go ahead and sue?<BR>
Bill will know that only last week he managed to ensure that a new broadcaster was only charged pro-rata for two months' royalties when the organisation concerned had insisted - would you beleive - on a full 12-month fee for two months' activity.<BR>
Peter raises the point about using music from other countries and how Royalties are and should be paid.<BR>
As I understand it - and I may be quite wrong - there are parallel agreements throughout the world with other royalty collection agencies.<BR>
We provide facilities for stations serving Asian communities and they never ever pay PRS, MCPS and PPL as far as I can see. <BR>
If English-language stations in the UK are required to pay, then why are these equally-licensed broadcasters apparently exempted because their music orignated in another country?<BR>
Why doesn't Ofcom collect these royalties - if indeed they are fully authenticated in Law - at the same time as the Licence Fees?<BR>
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:16:28 +0100<BR>
To: <a href="trevor@felixstoweradio.co.uk">trevor@felixstoweradio.co.uk</a><BR>
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Subject: Re: [cma-l] PRS Community Radio Licence Application and FAQ - your feedback required<BR>
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I'd second that - a very large proportion of our music is from Mainland China, which isn't under the PRS/PPL license. <BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="2"><FONT FACE="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:10pt'>In the past I've wondered whether CMA is now large enough to consider creating its own version of PRS, working with that organisation, but achieving economies of scale by having one application/funding stream.<BR>
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</SPAN></FONT><FONT SIZE="1"><FONT FACE="Courier New"><SPAN STYLE='font-size:8pt'>Hi Jaqui's not available today to address the issues that some of you have recently brought up on the list as she's attending a meeting at DCMS to represent the sector to the Digital Radio Marketing Group. Yesterday Jaqui was at the "Community Radio and Digitally Networked Business" workshop in Port Talbot and met a number of CMA members there. On 15 October Jaqui and I attended a meeting at PRS for Music to discuss issues around music licensing for the sector - in particular about MCPS rates which have hitherto not yet been charged. PRS will feedback to the CMA about MCPS rates when the relevant PRS board documentation is completed later this week. I'm delighted to say that talks with PRS were productive and the CMA has re-established a positive working dialogue with PRS. In the meantime PRS are currently reviewing their Community Radio documentation in advance of refreshing it with the new licence information and updated PRS rates. Are there any frequently asked questions or items that station managers are particularly interested in that require attention or further explanation? The PRS Community Radio Licence Application and FAQ is here: <a href="http://bit.ly/dwnsAF">http://bit.ly/dwnsAF</a> Please get back to me with any feedback. Regards Bill -- Community Media Association <a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/">http://www.commedia.org.uk/</a> <a href="http://twitter.com/community_media">http://twitter.com/community_media</a> Facebook Fans: <a href="http://bit.ly/cog8n5">http://bit.ly/cog8n5</a> _______________________________________________ cma-l mailing list - <a href="cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a> Community Media Association - www.commedia.org.uk <<a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/">http://www.commedia.org.uk/</a>> _______________________________________________ To manage your mailing list subscription please visit: <a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a><BR>
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