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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hi Phil,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I can’t see how one can conceivably argue that restricting a revenue stream to 50% is a benefit either to the station or its community. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ofcom, manage commercial radio on their output not on their input and even they say they are over regulated! They manage to write a format in a couple of sentences and yet we have pages. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What a totally nuts situation we have, that the organisations most likely to provide a community benefit are hamstrung by over regulation and come to that fixed coverage which bears no relation to local need or topography.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Clearly there needs to be some regulatory limits, so let create a minimum set of rules that deliver community benefits. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>PS More proof; If a Community Station provides a service on DAB it is not regulated in the same way, BUT yet again is the poor relation to commercial radio as at least they get an automatic extension to their FM licence – truly Bonkers!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Korbel<br><b>Sent:</b> 11 October 2010 12:22 PM<br><b>To:</b> CMA-L<br><b>Subject:</b> [cma-l] Community Radio 50% Rules<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>Good call Murray<br><br>Last year, I was sat with Ed Richards [CEO Ofcom] at Wythenshawe FM with a few other local licence holders and he asked us - unbidden - what we thought of the 50% rule. I expected a bit of a ruck from the stations that had spot ads and sponsorship cental to their business plan - but there was none. Indeed one ex ILR head [who I'd expected to lead the charge] said he was happy with the rule - because of the 'in kind' rule in main. <br><br>I was part of the original lobby for sector's founding legislation and we proposed the 50% rule as a safeguard for a 'mixed economy' - to ensure that stations would not have to go for biggest audience/lowest common denominator - as they would if reliant solely on commercial revenue. Of course this does deprive some stations of vital revenue so the challenge I'd put back is - what other means could there be to ensure that the essential 'social gain' character of the sector is not lost? And that cant be by more rigorous policing of the Key Commitements as we're likely to see a very different [shrunk?] Ofcom. Perhaps a different number other than 50%?<br><br>And besides - isnt the headlong retreat from local output by many of the main commercial operators opportunity enough?<br><br>So, let's have light touch regulation that preserves our distinctiveness - but please dont make the mistake of thinking that a solely advert funded station will be able to deliver social gain in the same way as a mixed economy one... As Zane Ibrahim famously said - dont make your stations popular - make them necessary!<br><br>bests<br><br>Phil<br><br>[who now battens down the hatches...]<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 10 October 2010 18:49, Murray Dawson <<a href="mailto:murraywdawson@gmail.com" target="_blank">murraywdawson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Alan,<br><br>I feel that the changes to the 50% rule now leaves a fair amount of flexibility to ensure that Community Radio stations can develop on a sound financial footing - without 'selling out' by going down the commercial ad driven route.<br><br>Our organisation works across a range of community media formats, which allows us even greater flexibility, as it's the income of the company that is measured. Therefore every grant we get for another area of the organisations work means the rule becomes less and less relevant to us (and in any case we had 14,000 hrs of volunteering last year, and had no commercial adverts).<br><br>I did have a major issue with the original rule though - and it cost our organisation heavily as we had to scale back our original Big Lottery bid to a figure which I felt we could match 50/50 - this is no longer the case though.<br><br>So my recommendation - diversification......<br><br>Where I do have a serious problem with the 'rules' though is with the power and range we can transmit. <br>Why should we be restricted to a fraction of the power of the commercials? <br>In Aberdeen, we are in a situation where a large proportion of our target communities don't get reception - or get a very poor reception, and the commercials still moan to Ofcom that our reach is too far! <br>Too far for what? <br>We're not interested in stealing their revenues or audience - the opposite is the case. We have evidence that our station has increased radio listeners across the city (commercial and community) by re-engaging people with the medium again.<br><br>Let's pull together and campaign on this one instead?<br><br>All the best<br><br>Murray<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>On 09/10/2010 12:48, Alan Coote wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Ian, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The CMA will do nothing. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Sorry to be so harsh, but during the Ofcom Community Radio review a couple of years ago they supported the 50% rule as it characterises Community Radio. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I totally agree with you it’s outdated and in desperate need of review along with a number of aspects – the sooner the better. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Alan</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a> [<a href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ian Hickling<br><b>Sent:</b> 09 October 2010 8:47 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jaqui Devereux; cma-l<br><b>Subject:</b> [cma-l] Community Radio 50% Rules</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br>I think most of us understood them Jaqui.<br>More so now - thank you.<br>But what exactly is the CMA doing about changing this outdated and punishing regulation?<br> <br>Ian Hickling<br>Partner<br>transplan UK<br> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2010 15:46:23 +0100<br>From: <a href="mailto:jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk" target="_blank">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>Subject: [cma-l] Community radio 50% rules - understanding them<br><br>Dear all<br><br>Just a clarification on the revised 50% rules for community radio following the CR Amendment Order:</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br>No more than 50% of your income can come from on air advertising and/or sponsorship.<br><br>The Amendment Order does however now allow that more than 50% can come from grants, Service Level Agreements etc.<br><br>Volunteer time can be counted as part of the "income" mix, but it must be auditable (timesheets, signing in sheets etc). However, if 50% of your income does come from on air ads etc, then only 25% of your income can be from volunteer in kind time.<br><br>So e.g.:<br><br>1 - station has a Big Lottery grant of £50,000 for the year (lucky it!), on air ads etc £20,000, volunteer time £10,000 - that mix is OK.<br><br>2 - station has a BL grant of £20,000, on air ads £50,000, volunteer time £30,000 - NOT OK as volunteer time exceeds 25% of the total<br><br>3 - station has BL grant of £25,000, on air ads £50,000, volunteer time £25,000 - is OK as volunteer time 25%<br><br>4 - station has BL grant of £20,000, on air ads £50,000, volunteer time £30,000, OFF air ads/sponsorship £20,000 - is OK as off air does not count towards the 50% limit <br><br>Hope that helps....<br><br>Jaqui<br clear=all><span style='color:#888888'><br>-- <br>Jaqui Devereux<br>Director, Community Media Association</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>Jaqui Devereux<br>Director, Community Media Association<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________ cma-l mailing list - 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