<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Good to see so many people working on this on a Sunday... I think all these emails are out of sync, the CMA server isn't used to it! </div><div><br></div><div>.......yes agree with Phil, we need to get out of this 'radio' and 'television' mindset and push community media. </div><div><br></div><div>I for one have no idea what Cameron's Big Society is but that is the beauty of it, he doesn't either, does he? </div><div><br></div><div>I couldn't work out what he was talking about, all I figured is we fit the notions proposed - active citizens, social inclusion, community, social development, doing good ..... that is the key? </div><div><br></div><div>How people express themselves in doing all of this whether through radio, television, Internet or a showcase in their local community centre - that's the distribution mechanism.</div><div><br></div><div>So, some super sized community media ideas for the Big society .... ??</div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div>Marilyn</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br><div><div>On 16 May 2010, at 12:56, Phil Shep wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Please note community media is not just radio!</div><div><br></div><div>Phil<br><br><br></div><div><br>On 16 May 2010, at 12:13, Ian Hickling <<a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div> <br>I don't have a lot of confidence in the concept of "Industry Figures" - and none at all with "Academics" in this context.<br>By all means we need some external input, but the movers and shakers should be people having direct business and technological association with radio broadcasting.<br> <br><hr id="stopSpelling">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:markianpolden@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:markianpolden@hotmail.com">markianpolden@hotmail.com</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:phil@somersetfilm.com">phil@somersetfilm.com</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk"></a><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>Subject: RE: Frustrated Campaigning<br>Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 08:13:54 +0000<br><br>Maybe the whole thing should be opened up to reps from different geographic areas and business sectors. I too am quite frustrated with CMA in general and the attitude to topslicing the license fee in particular. I had a little bit of the fight about this pre-election, cos I asked who would be making the decisions. I was told that it would be the cma comittee which consists of industry figures and ACADEMICS ?, what have academics got to do with it. The power needs to be given back to the members in cooperative form<br><br>Mark Polden<br>Flame 1521 <br><hr id="ecxstopSpelling">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:transplanfm@hotmail.com">transplanfm@hotmail.com</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:markianpolden@hotmail.com">markianpolden@hotmail.com</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:phil@somersetfilm.com">phil@somersetfilm.com</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk"></a><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>Subject: Frustrated Campaigning<br>Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 07:39:25 +0000<br><br> <br>We see a wide spctrum of situations and problems from all across the UK and in many different kinds of Community regimes.<br>Like a lot of us here, I get a bit inflamed about certain subjects dear to our own business and tend to let others pass me by because they don't impact on us directly and frankly they aren't within my skills range.<br>So my feeling is that an AGM or Committee-style concensus isn't ideal for addressing the aspects I'd like to change, although I fully accept that both have their merits.<br>This discussion medium appears to command a good customer base and certanly attracts all sorts of contributions - and contributors.<br>I'm happy to stick with this, but I would like to see more pointed CMA responses to individual points even though I am aware that staffing and available time are limited resources.<br>Ian Hickling<br>Partner<br>transplan UK<br> <br><hr id="ecxecxstopSpelling">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:markianpolden@hotmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:markianpolden@hotmail.com">markianpolden@hotmail.com</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:phil@somersetfilm.com">phil@somersetfilm.com</a>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk"></a><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 22:24:34 +0000<br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] Frustrated campaigning<br><br>Hi All<br> <br>I would certainly be happy to become rep for Merseyside/Cheshire/North Wales<br> <br>Mark Polden<br>Flame 1521<br> <br><hr id="ecxecxecxstopSpelling">Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 09:51:52 +0100<br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:phil@somersetfilm.com"></a><a href="mailto:phil@somersetfilm.com">phil@somersetfilm.com</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk"></a><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>Subject: [cma-l] Frustrated campaigning<br><br><blockquote><font size="4"><font face="Gill Sans"><span style="font-size: 14pt; "><br><br></span></font></font><blockquote><font size="4"><font face="Gill Sans"><span style="font-size: 14pt; ">Dear all<br><br>There has long been a need for more joined up regional working within CMA and this fact has not been lost on staff and council. Our great frustration in recent years has been a lack of capacity to do more to make this happen on the ground. Jaqui and the team go well beyond the call of duty on a daily basis to hold the line for the sector, to make sure we are represented at the key conversations, to provide the tech and information support which is so useful to us all. But holding the line is necessarily where we have been at for quite a while and as a sector we need to look at how we can work more effectively together to addresss this - and for me the key is in regional working.<br><br>Again, capacity rears its head - yes we're all busy - but also at times we are short-sighted when we build alliances with others and fail to key in our collective strength to the bigger picture .<br><br>As has been observed, there is too often a disconnect between the passionate ideas expressed and the ability of the tiny over- stretched core to follow up the ideas - the ones couched in reality at least! If we were meeting regularly at a regional level we could do much more to mobilise grass roots campaigning.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Just here in Somerset we have at least six CR stations and other CM projects within a fifty mile radius and while there is at times I know, good and positive communication flowing between projects this rarely translates into joined up campaigns which key into the bigger picture. Let's really tackle this one at the AGM this year - it's overdue and would I think obviate some of the frustrations expressed recently on this list. I've got a year left at most as Chair and would like to to do as much as possible in that time to put the beginnings of a working regional structure in place. Let me know what you think.<br><br>And yes to echo others, if you've got time and energy to give,please do consider standing for council. We need all the expertise and energy we can muster to help take us all forward.<br><br>Best wishes<br><br>Phil<br>Chair of Council<br><br></span></font></font></blockquote><font size="4"><font face="Gill Sans"><span style="font-size: 14pt; "><br><br><br><br><br></span></font></font></blockquote><br><hr>Get a free e-mail account with Hotmail.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/">Sign-up now.</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><hr>Get a new e-mail account with Hotmail - Free.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/197222280/direct/01/">Sign-up now.</a></div></blockquote><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>cma-l mailing list -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br><br>Community Media Association -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk">www.commedia.org.uk</a><br>_______________________________________________<br><br>To manage your mailing list subscription please visit:<br><a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>Marilyn Hyndman</div><div>Northern Visions/NvTv</div><div>23 Donegall Street</div><div>Belfast</div><div>BT1 2FF</div><div><br></div><div>Tel: 028 9024 5495 ext 207</div><div>Fax: 028 9032 6608</div><div><br></div><div>NvTv </div><div>Belfast Community Television</div><div>Free-to-Air on Channel 62/Freq:799.276MHz</div><div>Live on line: <a href="http://www.nvtv.co.uk">www.nvtv.co.uk</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.northernvisions.org">www.northernvisions.org</a></div></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br></div></div></body></html>