<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Fair use is a difficult thing to define. You might argue that reading an extract from a short story is a small part of the work and therefore, under the law, a fair use. The copyright holder may argue differently. So tread carefully. Also remember the author may not always be the rights holder and therefore an email from them saying "fine, use it" may be not be enough to protect you. To be honest, I doubt anyone would chase a community station as they don't see any money there but that's not to say that caution isn't needed. 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"><div>Richard Berry</div><div>Senior Lecturer in Radio Studies</div><div>Admissions Tutor</div><div>Programme Leader: FdA Community Radio & BA Radio</div><div>The David Puttnam Media Centre, St Peters Campus</div><div>Sunderland, SR6 0DD</div><div>Tel: 0191 515 2239</div><div><a href="http://www.twitter.com/sunderlandradio">www.twitter.com/sunderlandradio</a></div><div>Web: <a href="http://www.sunderland.ac.uk/radio">www.sunderland.ac.uk/radio</a></div><div>Tags: <a href="http://www.delicious.com/richardberry">www.delicious.com/richardberry</a></div><div>Blog:myblogs.sunderland.ac.uk/blogs/radio/</div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 21 Oct 2009, at 12:25, CMA-L wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br><br>From: "Robert Kirkwood" <<a href="mailto:Robert.Kirkwood@insightradio.co.uk">Robert.Kirkwood@insightradio.co.uk</a>><br> <div link="blue" vlink="blue" style="word-wrap: break-word;" lang="EN-US"> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">HI,</span></font></p><div><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"></span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I work on a show called Talking Books at Insight Radio so have a bit of experience with broadcasting the spoken word.</span></font></p><div><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"></span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I’m assuming your presenters and participants in the show will be reading the work themselves and not using clips from audio books or anything similar. If that’s the case, it’s a lot simpler than music copyright; in fact it’s akin to just dealing with the lyrics of a song, not the musicians or performers. </span></font></p><div><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"></span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">If you’re just reading passages from written works that are less than one or two minutes I’d term that as ‘fair use’ and as long as the writer and publisher are credited you should be fine without approaching anyone. If you want to use anything longer, or perhaps a complete poem from beginning to end, I’d approach the author themselves via an agent or publisher just to make sure, but to be honest, I’ve never come across anyone who has refused me. It’s a great advert for their book after all.</span></font></p><div><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"></span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">It may be that the work you are reading from has no remaining copyright, something like Dracula or Frankenstein could be read from beginning to end … a general rule of thumb is 70 years after the death of the author, although this could go down to 50 years depending on when they died. The Project Gutenberg website lists books out of copyright in the </span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">US</span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> and is a fairly good guide for the </span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">UK</span></font><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> situation. </span></font></p><p><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">Cheers,</span></font></b></p><p><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">Robert</span></font></b></p><div><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div><p><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">....................................</span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;"> <br> </span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">Robert Kirkwood</span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;"> <br> </span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">Broadcast Producer</span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;"> </span></font></b></p><p><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;"><a href="http://www.insightradio.co.uk/" target="_blank"><font color="#333399"><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 153); text-decoration: none;"><span><image001.jpg></span></span></font></a><br> Tel: 0141 3573518 ext. 28 <br> Fax: 0141 3345530 <br> Email: <u><a href="mailto:robert.kirkwood@insightradio.co.uk" target="_blank">robert.kirkwood@insightradio.co.uk</a></u> <br> Address: </span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">17 Gullane St</span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">, Partick, </span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">Glasgow</span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">, </span></font></b><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">G11 6AH</span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">--</span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">DISCLAIMER:</span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;"> </span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="#333399" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153); font-weight: bold;">NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. 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font-family: Tahoma;">21 October 2009</span></font><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> </span></font><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">09:47</span></font><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> CMA-L<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [cma-l] copyright on the spoken word</span></font></p><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I know lots about music copyright issues and broadcast - but what about the written (and then spoken) word. </span></font></p> <div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; "><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">For example if a group of people were doing a programme about Fear and, amongst many other things - wanted to do some readings of poetry or sections of published stories that they have found particularly scary ... what do I need to do to...</span></font></p> </div> <div><div style="margin-left: 36pt; 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