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Pink gins on the poop deck all round then!<br>
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I've seen a significant jump in the numbers of signatories these past 2
days (2355 now) and have seen a semi-rattled response from Sion Simon
after various lobbying left hooks...show me those tiger
faces....roooowwwlll<br>
<br>
K<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Julie@radiowestsuffolk.co.uk">Julie@radiowestsuffolk.co.uk</a> wrote:
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cite="mid:20090904100548.g1ja7dn88c4404o4@webmail.radiowestsuffolk.co.uk"
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<pre wrap="">First I thought I was on a Jerry Springer show, then Hill St Blues,
now I am on the Love Boat.
And I haven't left my seat, what passion.
Julie MacLeod
Station Manager
Listen to me every Friday night at 8pm for the Request Show or every other
Wednesday at 6pm for "What's Going On". <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.radiowestsuffolk.co.uk">www.radiowestsuffolk.co.uk</a>
RWSfm is coming to Bury Soon!
Quoting Karl Hartland <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:hartland.karl@209radio.co.uk"><hartland.karl@209radio.co.uk></a>:
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<pre wrap="">I love you Lol, you're my hero, always have been. Captain of the Love
Machine, so you are.
I love you all out there in Community Media Land too but we've got to
come together on this; the petition is the first stage and we have make
it a good one. Bite chucks out of one another off-list if you must (I
have and have had it done to me) but we must have unity when in the
Theatre of War.
Listen to this man below, he speaks sense, Lol for Mayor I say. Mayor
of us all.
K
LOL GELLOR wrote:
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<pre wrap="">And from the shadows the battle scarred veteran, a surprisingly
upbeat handsome /Mr/. Miyagi like figure - sorry that's meant to
be me - emerges to make an observation.
Passion very good - martyred disposition (probably essential for
long term stamina) -
Eccentric almost certainly - ability to be challenged, argue,
understand and then expand
Oh you special communtiy media types - the strength and weakness,
the broadest of churches - love each other you deserve it - it is
unlikely that anyone else will (joke don't be sensitive) oh yeah
sensitivity (not irony on this occassion).
The point is do what you can, don't presume others are not -
although that's up to them.
As appropriately observed elsewhere in thread many people come from
a place real or imagined that does not easily allow them to sign
up to government lists.
Anecdote alert!
My Kurdish friends raised 4,000 hand written signatures to deliver
to me! - in their plea for longer hours on Sound Radio - I think it
is safe to say many of them would not have been so ready to sign a
"government" petition.
Only you will know your contributors and audience that well - maybe
there is actually something else they can do or will motivate them
in raising the cause profile - here I am talking of the carrot
shaped stick (I learned to fashion this mystic motivational form
from the ether, or more accuratley the airwaves). You would like
people to be as bonkers as you but some sometimes they need a
little encouragement - I know! but we are pragmatists as well -
slightly idealistic all be it - but problem solving little tigers.
Grrrr
I think it's safe to say I can relate to the frustrations - don't
get me started! - but you must be patient, supportive, forgiving,
understanding of each other - and focus attention on those who must
be persuaded to attach real value to the real value of what you
all do. The list clearly presents a therapy opportunity to vent
some spleen - and why not - you all deserve some kind of punch bag
(hey I could be face of the month after this)
But recognise the complex dynamics of the communitry media sector -
at least to the extent that it is not simple and that my friends
has always been part of its beauty.
Anyway who suggests they are not in anyway eccentric and
passionately frustrated to some extent, and are involved in the
full time running of a community radio station are to be regarded
with suspicion. I certainly didn't break the mould.
Keep up the good work, you are all doing something really rather
special - and as the sarge used to say - Be careful out there -
now where do I sign the petition -
all the very best
Lol
--- On *Thu, 3/9/09, Office - ccr-fm /<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:office@ccr-fm.co.uk"><office@ccr-fm.co.uk></a>/* wrote:
From: Office - ccr-fm <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:office@ccr-fm.co.uk"><office@ccr-fm.co.uk></a>
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Appeal to all Station Managers / Project Leaders
To: "'Phil Gibbons'" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:phil@bcfm.org.uk"><phil@bcfm.org.uk></a>, "'CMA-L'"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk"><cma-l@commedia.org.uk></a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-request@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk">jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:phil@radioregen.org">phil@radioregen.org</a>,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:phil@radio-regen.myzen.co.uk">phil@radio-regen.myzen.co.uk</a>, "'Bill Best'"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bill.best@commedia.org.uk"><bill.best@commedia.org.uk></a>
Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 12:16 PM
Dear All
I do have a comment to make ..................... this (steve's
e-mail) is a clear cry for help ..................... the problem
is that frustration is starting to creep and set in ............
in a league table of frustration with this Bill and these rules I
am most definitely top by a clear 11 point lead with 3 games in hand !
You mention constructive debate ......................... Here
lies the problem in my opinion ...................... The
constructive debate and requests have been milked dry
............. I am wiery, tired, and bored of all of it
............ ............... people in the CMA and Ofcom are
likewise bored of my whinging ............
OK ......... let's agree that we do it this way and hope and pray
that things are changed ............... I'm not hopeful, I have
given my reasons on so many occasions. We are being laughed at and
treated with contempt !
I will say it again .................. there has to be a plan
B a contingency plan ......................... It would
unfortunately mean action and conflict. It seems rather bizarre
that I am writing this e-mail on the 70^th anniversary of 1939 !
Neville Chamberlain you may recall pleaded with Herr Hitler to
refrain from nonsense .......................... he didn't, and
nothing changed ................. the only way left was action and
to take up arms or of course .......... Get ones butts kicked
................ Certainly not one of my options.
I pray that this doesn't happen ................ But, we are
dealing with ridiculous legislation, black and white rules with no
allowance for grey areas, bureaucracy and people with blinkers on
........................................ Need I say anymore
..................... all of this together is making our job at
Canalside almost unbearable.
I'm not a happy bunny at the moment. But I'm a fighter and I'll
plod on. Sadly, that's all we are doing ................ Plodding.
Regards to all
Nick
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*From:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk">mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a>] *On Behalf Of *Phil
Gibbons
*Sent:* 02 September 2009 22:56
*To:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Stevensuttie@aol.com">Stevensuttie@aol.com</a>; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a>
*Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Appeal to all Station Managers / Project
Leaders
Steven,
I'm all for open debate and fully support this forum, petition and
the call for signatures. I do however (as you fully expected -
//If you feel that my outburst is rude, unnecessary, offensive or
wide of the mark - please feel free to mock me and tell me why
right here on the CMA mailing list//), feel the need to reply to
your post, some comments of which are totally outrageous - unless
of course I have missed the 'irony' in your comments:
//Obviously, the people who are at the forefront of running
community radio are a bunch of lazy, self serving morons who
deserve to be sacked for being so inept that they cannot even
manage to get their people to sign a flipping petition on a
computer! //Highly abusive, unnecessary and downright insulting to
the many hardworking and committed project and station managers
who work tirelessly with and for the community. Their people??
//To me it simply demonstrates that the fortunate people who have
inherited the job of running community radio are lazy, self
serving and half hearted.// //And a bit rubbish actually!// Its an
embarrassment. For the record I have been facilitating a community
radio project in Bristol for six years now and am certainly not
lazy, self serving or half hearted, and neither am I a bit
rubbish. Sweeping statements like this do nothing to create a good
cohesive sector. If we embarrass you so much, the factory is
calling you!
//But get your bloody finger out and get the petition signed by
ALL your team and partners first. XXX. //Doesn't even warrant a
response.
If this is the sort of post that is going to be on this forum then
I don't hold much hope for the continuation of constructive
debate. If we can't have decent posts, then I shall simply
unsubscribe from the list.
Please think very seriously before posting damaging and
insulting garbage like this again Steven.
With slightly fewer regards,
Phil
Phil Gibbons - Station Manager
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:phil@bcfm.org.uk">phil@bcfm.org.uk</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:/mc/compose?to=phil@bcfm.org.uk"></mc/compose?to=phil@bcfm.org.uk></a>
Bristol 's Community radio station - Your voice - Your choice!
93.2fm in Bristol
Online at: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.bcfm.org.uk">www.bcfm.org.uk</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.bcfm.org.uk"><http://www.bcfm.org.uk></a>
**WINNERS - Most innovative project in Bristol Award - VOSCUR
Awards 2009**
0560 1126659 - Office
0117 9553721 - Studio
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The Beacon Centre
City Academy Bristol
Russell Town Avenue
Bristol
BS5 9JH
----- Original Message -----
*From:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Stevensuttie@aol.com">Stevensuttie@aol.com</a>
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*To:* <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:/mc/compose?to=cma-l@commedia.org.uk"></mc/compose?to=cma-l@commedia.org.uk></a>
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:56 PM
*Subject:* [cma-l] Appeal to all Station Managers / Project
Leaders
Hands up if you are sick hearing about the number
10 petition.
Crikey... that's a lot of hands!
Obviously, the people who are at the forefront of running
community radio are a bunch of lazy, self serving morons who
deserve to be sacked for being so inept that they cannot even
manage to get their people to sign a flipping petition on a
computer!
I know first hand how hard it is to manage a community radio
service. Theres not enough hours in the day... theres always
something that still needs doing... and theres always somebody
who needs you to do something that you can't justify the time
for. I guess lots of you are struggling to find the time for
this petition. Indeed, reading this here e-mail.
I see that some of our "colleagues" in Scotland
don't want to
sign the petition because they feel aggrieved at Government
policy regarding community radio, and won't see any benefits.
(They weren't moaning when they first got their licenses
though?) Some station managers have not bothered e-mailing
their volunteers the link. But, they've signed it themselves.
Some managers haven't even heard about it?
My job involves working 7 days a week. I have volunteers
phoning me up "for a chat" at half ten at night! But, despite
the long hours, the hard days, the boring meetings... I know I
am lucky enough to have the best job in the world and I am
eternally grateful to community radio for giving me a chance
to get out of the factory. Community radio has provided me a
job where no two days are the same, where there is always fun
and excitement, and massive rewards, every day.
I particularly love the fact that my job offers me
the chance
to get paid for having a great time giving others a great
time. I love it that over 120 people a week have a highlight
to look forward to, and that tens of listeners enjoy listening!
I'm not too arrogant to realise that the factory
still exists
and I could go back there at anytime.
I thought that all station managers in the sector would feel
as passionate, and feel fortunate to be in such a bloody
great position. But this official government petition episode
demonstrates that there is a lot of complacent and
lackadaisical people working in, and - more importantly
managing community radio.
How can any manager not see the benefits in urging their
volunteers, partners, listeners and supporters to sign a
petition that is asking for greater support for the sector?
Its absolutely bonkers that only 2,170 people can be arsed to
sign this petition despite countless reminders, e-mails and
phone calls. To me it simply demonstrates that the fortunate
people who have inherited the job of running community radio
are lazy, self serving and half hearted. And a bit rubbish
actually! Its an embarrassment.
Every station manager, volunteer co-ordinator, chairman,
cleaner et al has a duty to urge EVERY practitioner to sign
the damn petition. Keep the PC on the site and drag EVERY
volunteer to it if needs be. Just bloody do it... or lets all
admit that we are actually quite an embarrassing bunch of
bores who can't even get 10% of our people to click a link and
press a few keys on a keyboard.
If you feel that my outburst is rude, unnecessary, offensive
or wide of the mark - please feel free to mock me and tell me
why right here on the CMA mailing list.
But get your bloody finger out and get the petition
signed by
ALL your team and partners first. XXX
*Kindest Regards
Steve Suttie
Station Manager, 94.4FM Salford City Radio*
office* 0161 793 2939 *
mobile *07772 355 852**
WINNERS - Community Award - Salford Business Awards 2009**
Visit our Website **www.salfordcityradio.org
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