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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I completely agree with your views, but I didn't want to be the
first to say it (what a coward!).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I am all for people making a strong point, but Steve's email was
rude, arrogant and outrageous &#8211; it went beyond my expectations for a
forum. There were so many assumptions written in it, I found it mocking and
basically rude, to the point where I might consider my membership of this
mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think the CMA should maybe state their view and publish a
clear policy because I for one feel embarrassed for our sector if that is the
way certain members go about articulating themselves!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chris Fox<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Youthcomm Radio Co-Ordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Youth Community Radio on 106.7FM in Worcester<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Also available worldwide online at www.youthcomm.org.uk/radio<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Or find us on Facebook and join our official group<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces@mailman.commedia.org.uk] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Phil Gibbons<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 02 September 2009 22:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Stevensuttie@aol.com; cma-l@commedia.org.uk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cma-l] Appeal to all Station Managers / Project Leaders<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Steven,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I'm all for open debate and fully support this forum,
petition&nbsp;and the call for signatures. I do however (as you fully expected
- </span><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>If you feel that my outburst is rude, unnecessary,&nbsp;offensive or
wide of the mark - please feel free to mock me and tell me why right here on
the CMA mailing list</span></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>), feel the need to reply to your post, some comments of which are
totally outrageous - unless of&nbsp;course&nbsp;I have missed the 'irony' in
your comments:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>Obviously, the people who are at the forefront of running community
radio are a bunch of lazy, self serving morons who deserve to be sacked for
being so inept that they cannot even manage to get their people to sign a
flipping petition on a computer! </span></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Highly abusive, unnecessary and
downright insulting to the many hardworking and committed project and station
managers who work tirelessly with and for the community. Their people??<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>To me it simply demonstrates that the fortunate people who have
inherited the job of running community radio are lazy, self serving&nbsp;and
half hearted.</span></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> </span><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>And a bit rubbish actually!</span></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'> Its an embarrassment.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> For the
record I have been&nbsp;facilitating a community radio project in Bristol for
six years now and am certainly not lazy, self serving or half hearted, and
neither am I a bit rubbish. Sweeping statements like this do nothing to create
a good cohesive sector. If we embarrass you so much, the factory is calling
you!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:red'>But get your bloody finger out and get the petition signed by ALL
your team and partners first. XXX. </span></em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Doesn't even warrant a response.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>If this is the sort of&nbsp;post that is going to be on this forum
then I don't hold much hope for the continuation of constructive debate. If we
can't have decent posts, then I shall simply unsubscribe from the list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Please think very seriously before posting&nbsp;damaging and
insulting&nbsp;garbage like this again Steven.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>With slightly&nbsp;fewer regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Phil<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Phil Gibbons - Station Manager<br>
<a href="mailto:phil@bcfm.org.uk">phil@bcfm.org.uk</a><br>
&nbsp;<br>
Bristol's Community radio station - Your voice - Your choice!<br>
93.2fm in Bristol<br>
Online at: <a href="http://www.bcfm.org.uk">www.bcfm.org.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:fuchsia'>WINNERS -&nbsp;Most innovative project&nbsp;in Bristol Award
-&nbsp;VOSCUR Awards 2009</span></strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
<br>
&nbsp;<br>
0560 1126659 - Office<br>
0117 9553721 - Studio<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><a href="http://www.bcfm.org.uk">www.bcfm.org.uk</a><br>
&nbsp;<br>
The Beacon Centre<br>
City Academy Bristol<br>
Russell Town Avenue<br>
Bristol<br>
BS5 9JH<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a
href="mailto:Stevensuttie@aol.com" title="Stevensuttie@aol.com">Stevensuttie@aol.com</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> <a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk"
title="cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:56 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> [cma-l] Appeal to all Station Managers / Project Leaders<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Hands up if you are sick hearing about the number 10 petition.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Crikey... that's a lot of hands!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Obviously, the people who are at the forefront of running
community radio are a bunch of lazy, self serving morons who deserve to be
sacked for being so inept that they cannot even manage to get their people to
sign a flipping petition on a computer!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I know first hand how hard it is to manage a community radio
service. Theres not enough hours in the day... theres always something that
still needs doing... and theres always somebody who needs you to do something
that you&nbsp;can't justify the time for. I guess lots of you are struggling to
find the time for this petition. Indeed, reading this here e-mail.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I see that some of our &quot;colleagues&quot; in Scotland don't
want to sign the petition because they feel aggrieved at Government policy
regarding community radio, and won't see any benefits. (They weren't moaning
when they first got their licenses though?) Some station managers have not bothered
e-mailing their volunteers the link. But, they've signed it themselves. Some
managers haven't even heard about it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>My job involves working 7 days a week. I have volunteers phoning
me up &quot;for a chat&quot; at half ten at night! But, despite the long hours,
the hard days, the boring meetings... I know I am lucky enough to have the best
job in the world and I am eternally grateful to community radio for giving me a
chance to get out of the factory. Community radio has provided me a job where
no two days are the same, where there is always fun and excitement, and massive
rewards, every day. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I particularly love the fact that my job offers me the chance to
get paid for having a great time giving others a great time. I love it that
over 120 people a week have a highlight to look forward to, and that tens of
listeners enjoy listening!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I'm not too arrogant to realise that the factory still exists and
I could go back there at anytime.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I thought that all station managers in the sector would feel as
passionate, and feel fortunate to be in such a bloody great&nbsp;position. But
this official government petition episode demonstrates that there is a lot of
complacent and lackadaisical people working in, and - more importantly managing
community radio.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>How can any manager not see the benefits in urging their
volunteers, partners, listeners and supporters to sign a petition that is
asking for greater support for the sector? Its absolutely bonkers that only
2,170 people can be arsed to sign this petition despite countless reminders,
e-mails and phone calls. To me it simply demonstrates that the fortunate people
who have inherited the job of running community radio are lazy, self
serving&nbsp;and half hearted. And a bit rubbish actually! Its an embarrassment.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Every station manager, volunteer co-ordinator, chairman, cleaner
et al has a duty to urge EVERY practitioner to sign the damn petition. Keep the
PC on the site and drag EVERY volunteer to it if needs be. Just bloody do it...
or lets all admit that we are actually quite an embarrassing bunch of bores who
can't even get 10% of our people to click a link and press a few keys on a
keyboard.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>If you feel that my outburst is rude, unnecessary,&nbsp;offensive
or wide of the mark - please feel free to mock me and tell me why right here on
the CMA mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>But get your bloody finger out and get the petition signed by ALL
your team and partners first. XXX<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Kindest
Regards<br>
Steve Suttie<br>
Station Manager, 94.4FM Salford City Radio</span></b><span style='font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
office<b> 0161 793 2939 </b><br>
mobile <b>07772 355 852</b></span><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:fuchsia'><br>
WINNERS - Community Award - Salford Business Awards 2009</span></b><b><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br>
Visit our Website </span></b><b><span style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'><a href="http://www.salfordcityradio.org/listen.asx">www.salfordcityradio.org</a></span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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