<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ahhhhh. Now this is the point isn't it? We are talking about CMA talking to government (in this case the COI) to help us all get a slice of their national budget, which is clearly a fair thing to ask the CMA and right that our request should be made this way. What we shouldn't be asking is for the CMA to become our national sales house and finding us revenue from Coca Cola and Churchill Insurance<div><br></div><div>Oh No</div><div><br></div><div>Rich</div><div><br></div><div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; 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"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Richard Berry</div><div>Senior Lecturer in Radio Studies</div><div>Admissions Tutor</div><div>Programme Leader: FdA Community Radio & BA Radio</div><div>The David Puttnam Media Centre, St Peters Campus</div><div>Sunderland, SR6 0DD</div><div>Tel: 0191 515 2239</div><div>Skype, Facebook & Twitter: richardberryuk</div><div>Web: <a href="http://www.sunderland.ac.uk/radio">www.sunderland.ac.uk/radio</a></div><div>Tags: <a href="http://www.delicious.com/richardberry">www.delicious.com/richardberry</a></div><div>Blog:myblogs.sunderland.ac.uk/blogs/radio/</div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"> </div><br><div><div>On 10 Aug 2009, at 14:03, Derrick Francis wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">Jagui suggested the CMA, so lets make that clear. Furthermore, I strongly believe that everything the COI send out should include community radio stations and we should get the financial benefits. We know that more often that not local people are listening to there local community radio station,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><strong>not </strong>the local commercial stations. We at GFM know the information broadcast on commercial stations does not reach the hard to reach listeners that we in community radio pride ourselves on serving. Community radio is now an integral part of broadcasting in this country and we keep coming across the same old obstacles. I simply asked the question if the CMA has the resources, I know we at GFM don't, However, if you have students that want to assist the CMA, I'm sure no one would object. <br> <br><hr id="stopSpelling">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:richard.berry@sunderland.ac.uk">richard.berry@sunderland.ac.uk</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:19:41 +0100<br>Subject: Re: [cma-l] advertising rates reference<br><br>Whilst I totally agree that the sector needs a central point for commercial sales I don't think it's right for the CMA to do this. The CMA should be there to impartially present our case to government , funders and regulators. This way it can represent all our interests fairly. Commercial sales isn't something every station engages in, some don't want to and some aren't allowed. If we are to have a national sales house it needs to be independent of the CMA, even if it's allied like canstream. The key question here though is what we want from it? Do we want ads? sponsored features that are made for us (e.g weekly DIY features sponsored by B&Q) or do we want nationally syndicated programming? This is how student radio once had national ad money via a live satellite channel. This ultimately failed but there is no saying it can't work here. But it's not for us to insist the CMA does it but rather seeing if someone has the skill to start something?<div><br></div><div>Rich</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div><span class="EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; "><span class="EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; "><span class="EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; "><span class="EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; "><span class="EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; "><span class="EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; "><span class="EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; "><div>Richard Berry</div><div>Senior Lecturer in Radio Studies</div><div>Admissions Tutor</div><div>Programme Leader: FdA Community Radio & BA Radio</div><div>The David Puttnam Media Centre, St Peters Campus</div><div>Sunderland, SR6 0DD</div><div>Tel: 0191 515 2239</div><div>Skype, Facebook & Twitter: richardberryuk</div><div>Web:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.sunderland.ac.uk/radio">www.sunderland.ac.uk/radio</a></div><div>Tags:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.delicious.com/richardberry">www.delicious.com/richardberry</a></div><div>Blog:myblogs.sunderland.ac.uk/blogs/radio/</div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="EC_Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="EC_Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="EC_Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="EC_Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="EC_Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="EC_Apple-interchange-newline"></div></span><br class="EC_Apple-interchange-newline"></div><br><div><div>On 8 Aug 2009, at 13:51, Derrick Francis wrote:</div><br class="EC_Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><span class="EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div class="EC_hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">The idea of the CMA pushing our cause has come up before and the response was work load, where will the resources come from to push this? <br> <br>> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:56:37 +0100<br>> From:<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:chrissymoog@higherrhythm.co.uk">chrissymoog@higherrhythm.co.uk</a><br>> To:<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk">cma-l@mailman.commedia.org.uk</a><br>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] advertising rates reference<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> That's a good suggestion Jaqui! CMA is actually in the right position to<br>> be doing that as they represent Community Media in the country (and they<br>> can cover more than the community radio side of things), plus it will<br>> bring financial benefit both to CMA and community radio stations<br>> involved, and therefore a win-win situation.<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Jaqui Devereux [<a href="mailto:jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk">mailto:jaqui.devereux@commedia.org.uk</a>]<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Sent: 07 August 2009 15:46<br>> To: chrissymoog<br>> Subject: Re: [cma-l] advertising rates reference<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> What about the CMA as the agency???<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> chrissymoog wrote:<br>> > Thanks for all who responded. I totally agree with Nick's point of<br>> view.<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > I also endorse Glyn's idea of having an agency which could represent<br>> all<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > community stations and block-sell advertising to the big<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > agencies...Considering the amount of money big companies and<br>> organisations<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > spend on their marketing, and not all community radios are able to tap<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > into that - it will definitely take some pressure out of community<br>> radio<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > stations. Thanks again for all the input!<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Julie, I'm definitely up for doing a get together, and comparing notes<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > at some point.<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > *From:*<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:glyn.m.roylance@googlemail.com">glyn.m.roylance@googlemail.com</a><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > [<a href="mailto:glyn.m.roylance@googlemail.com">mailto:glyn.m.roylance@googlemail.com</a>] *On Behalf Of *Glyn Roylance<br>> > *Sent:* 07 August 2009 13:01<br>> > *To:* chrissymoog<br>> > *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] advertising rates reference<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Hi,<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > I'd advise to approach some of the advertising agencies rather than<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > individual stations. Typically they would price by head of official<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > audience reach. However they typically run big regional or national<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > campaigns so "can't be bothered" with small-fry community stations,<br>> even<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > if they do get a lot of listeners when added together, due to<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > coordination work required to negotiate withe ach station.<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > I reckon there is scope for some enterprising person to set-up an<br>> agency<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > which could represent all community stations, and block-sell<br>> advertising<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > to the big agencies - taking a cut for themselves.<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > My brother works at South East radio in Wexford Ireland - I could see<br>> if<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > I can get hold of their rate card. It may not be immediately<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > transferrable, they are a big regional station, but due to low<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > population density of Ireland, probably only cover total population of<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > 200k or so. It may give one indication.<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Glyn<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Thornbury FM<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > On 8/7/09, *chrissymoog* <<a href="mailto:chrissymoog@higherrhythm.co.uk">chrissymoog@higherrhythm.co.uk</a><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > <<a href="mailto:chrissymoog@higherrhythm.co.uk">mailto:chrissymoog@higherrhythm.co.uk</a>>> wrote:<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Hello to everyone...<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > I just need a bit of guidance with advertising rates. I have been<br>> trying<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > to research the rate cards of commercial radio stations for reference<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > but not having any luck. Would anyone have an idea of how much most<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > commercial radio stations charge for ad slots? How do they differ with<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > the rates that community radio stations charge?<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Advertising is still one of the main problems in our sector, people do<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > not realize the community radio stations actually cover "majority" of<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > the listeners because of the diverse programming we offer compared to<br>> a<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > very narrow target of most commercial radio stations, i.e. 16-24,<br>> etc.<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Has there been a study on how effective advertising in community radio<br>><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > stations are? I know that there are some research done by OFCOM and<br>> RAB<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > about the effectiveness of advertising in radio, but it only involved<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Commercial Radio stations.<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Thanks in advance!<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Chrissy<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Chrissy Moog<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Station Manager - Sine FM<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.sinefm.com/">www.sinefm.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a href="http://www.sinefm.com/">http://www.sinefm.com/</a>><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > cma-l mailing list -<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a><br>> <<a href="mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk">mailto:cma-l@commedia.org.uk</a>><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Community Media Association -<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/">www.commedia.org.uk</a><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > <<a href="http://www.commedia.org.uk/">http://www.commedia.org.uk/</a>><br>> > _______________________________________________<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > To manage your mailing list subscription please visit:<br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l">http://mailman.commedia.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/cma-l</a><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > --<span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><span class="EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > Fancy earning free money when you make internet purchases? 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