[cma-l] News release from PPL

Wed May 31 00:16:39 BST 2017

>I didn’t suggest the artists shouldn’t be paid – they would in effect be
invited to effectively donate 0.1% of their dues

PPL is for record companies, not artists. It's up to record companies how
they pay their artists, not PPL.

PPL does blanket deals on behalf of the record companies. So, if you want
to change how PPL charges, start with the record companies, not PPL.

As ever, if you don't want to pay your PPL bill, you don't have to. Just
don't broadcast any PPL repertoire. And if you're claiming that would be
impossible, look at every single podcast out there and wonder how they get
billions of downloads without any PPL repertoire...

On Wed., 31 May 2017, 03:21 Alex Gray, Two Lochs Radio, <tlr at gairloch.co.uk>
wrote:

> I didn’t suggest the artists shouldn’t be paid – they would in effect be
> invited to effectively donate 0.1% of their dues to support a worthy sector
> that works for social gain, supports smaller artists, is tightly regulated
> and easily identified.
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> Also bear in mind only 40% of the PPL distribution goes to the performers
> – the majority of it is distributed to the big record labels whose
> interests PPL primarily serves.
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> I don’t think Glastonbury and co would be greatly affected since they are
> mostly live performance – not much of Glastobury is playback of
> phonographic recordings is it?!
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> Fetes, villages halls etc are generally already on lower cost flat rate
> licences.
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> Alex
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Martin Steers
> *Sent:* 30 May 2017 17:48
> *To:* CMA-Mailing-List <cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
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> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] News release from PPL
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> Do we not believe that artists should receive due renumeration for their
> work? Would we expect all our staff to work for little or nothing?
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> Also what about all the other not for profit activities, fates, events and
> isn't Glastonbury technically not for profit?
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> I like the idealism and if we could get some big name artists to agree or
> propose it.
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> On May 30, 2017 5:39 PM, "Alex Gray, Two Lochs Radio" <tlr at gairloch.co.uk>
> wrote:
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> Ha, I’ll collect the award later Nick.
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> But seriously, it does show that PPL has plenty of scope to propose to its
> members that they could introduce a social benefit licence scheme for very
> little cost by offering a low cost flat-fee (say £200) licence to stations
> constituted to operate not-for-profit and for social gain.
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> A back of the envelope calculation suggests this might drop their revenue
> from £212.1m to £211.8m (ie by about 0.15%).
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> So it would make the tiniest difference to their bottom line, while making
> a big difference to many hard-pressed community operations, while PPL would
> get the publicity kudos of showing what excellent public benefit-minded
> souls they are, and also support stations that tend to give more exposure
> to their less well-known and less well-heeled members.
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> Must go now – I want to try and get a photo of the pig that just passed my
> window.
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> Alex
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Canalside Community
> Radio Ltd
> *Sent:* 30 May 2017 15:39
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> *To:* 'The Community Media Association Discussion List' <
> cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
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> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] News release from PPL
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> Alex
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> If you going for the wind-up-merchant of the year award 2017     I think
> you’ve just won it    LOL   :
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> *Nick*
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