[cma-l] PPL and PRSfM - Community Radio "Licences"

Fri Sep 16 12:20:35 BST 2016

Hi,

Allow me to jump in. While I am not a copyright specialist (as in a
lawyer), I have been working with
copyright-free/copyleft/copyright-alternatives in broadcasting for eight
years now. I have recently won an award at the CRA for my work (Silver on
Innovation Awards of The Year).

For you to have an idea, on my White Market Podcast (currently airing on
Soundart and Spark Sunderland), I only play Creative Commons-licenced music
- an alternative to traditional copyright, which allows free sharing and
broadcast under specific terms determined by the author. You can check it
here: http://www.whitemarketpodcast.co.uk/

Following Richard's comment, I'd like to point out that alternatives to
copyrighted music might seem hard to find and a daunting universe in the
beginning, but the offer is actually very wide. I understand that most
stations will rather pay the licence and be protected against any possible
mishap; not to mention that most of the stations will rely heavily on
copyrighted material. However, if any of you need any help with finding
copyright alternatives to your radio production, even if only on a small
scale, feel free to send me an email, as I can help you with that.

Kind regards,
Rute Correia

*.: White Market Podcast*
whitemarketpodcast.co.uk
@WhiteMarketCast <https://twitter.com/WhiteMarketCast> //
facebook.com/whitemarketpodcast

2016-09-16 11:21 GMT+01:00 Richard Berry <richard.berry at sunderland.ac.uk>:

> The legislation sets the framework, and the Copyright Tribunal set the
> fees (See here: http://www.prsformusic.com/aboutus/faqs/prsformusicfaqs/
> pages/default.aspx#9  here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/
> licensing-bodies-and-collective-management-organisations and here:
> https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/copyright-tribunal)
>
>
>
> The general thrust is copyright owners have the right under law to be paid
> when their work is used. When you buy a CD you are granted permission (a
> licence) to play that music in certain situations. That does not include a
> public performance, where an additional licence must be granted. PRS and
> PPL are member organisations (As is EOS in Wales) who collect royalties for
> performances by their members. This makes it easier for us and for them.
> The fees are set by the bodies and overseen by Government. Obviously, the
> members want to biggest payment possible to offset losses through piracy
> etc.  You potentially don’t have to pay THEM the fees, but you would then
> permission for each element of the copyrights for everything that you did
> play. For example, the current number one “Closer” has 7 listed writers
> with which you would need to reach agreement. You’d also need consent from
> the publishers, the record label (possibly the owner and the subsidiaries)
> as well as the artists. Plus clearances for any samples used. Whilst we’d
> all wish the fees were lower, a blanket licence is by the far the easiest
> solution. If you object, you could of course run an all speech station, one
> where artists waive their rights (Amazing Radio did this for a bit) or
> music from artists who are not members.
>
>
>
> The power is with artists (see this about the split in Wales
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-30961059) It’s a shame you missed the
> PRS/PPL session last weeken Ian, we were looking forward to your questions
>
>
>
> Best wishes
>
>
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *Two Lochs Radio
> *Sent:* 16 September 2016 10:25
> *To:* office at thethread.org.uk; Ian Hickling; The Community Media
> Association Discussion List
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] PPL and PRSfM - Community Radio "Licences"
>
>
>
> The answer to the simple question is the same as it has been every time
> you've asked Ian. It's the: Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988
> Sections 116-123.
>
>
>
> Alex.
>
> On 16 September 2016 at 06:54 Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> The very basic challenge I've posed - amongst others - to PRSfM and PPL is:
>
>
>
> Show me please where in the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 - or
> any other legislation - it says that I have to pay you exclusively the fees
> you are demanding.
>
>
>
> Surely a very simple question - to which an answer is strangely not
> forthcoming?
>
>
>
> Ian Hickling
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk <cma-l-bounces at mailman.
> commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Alex Gray, Two Lochs Radio <
> tlr at gairloch.co.uk>
> *Sent:* 15 September 2016 17:28
> *To:* office at thethread.org.uk; 'The Community Media Association
> Discussion List'
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] FW: PPL and PRS for Music Community Radio Licences
> - Customer Consultation
>
>
>
> Dear Mr Numpty
>
>
>
> The rough answers to your questions are:
>
>
>
> 1)      Number of songs played per-hour      average
>
>
>
> The only proposed change in reporting is that there will no longer be a
> need to submit an estimate of future revenue at the start of a year, only
> the actual revenue at the end of the year.
>
>
>
> 2)      Standard budget reasonable cost payment
> bearing – in – mind that
>
>
>
> Whichever is the greater of:
>
> Minimum combined fee of £1798/year, or
>
> Combined royalties of 5% on 80% of any broadcast advertising or
> sponsorship income
>
>
>
> 3)      We are not for profit and our NET revenue is zero / zilch /
> diddly squat
>
>
>
> That status is of no interest to PPL or PRS – they levy the royalties on
> 80% of your broadcast (and/or simulcast) advertising and sponsorship
> income, regardless of whether or not it leads to profit or you spend it all
> on coffee and doughnuts for the presenters. If you have no such income,
> then you would pay only the minimum fees.
>
>
>
> 4)      No reporting, as there is nothing to report apart from song usage
>
>
>
> See 1) above
>
>
>
> Hope that fits within the attention span of a goldfish - good luck with
> the plates!
>
>
>
> Alex
>
>
>
> ----------------------------
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>
>
> Anything outside of this, my attention span has suddenly developed into
> that of a Goldfish.
>
>
>
> I fill the form in later as I need to get back to the 50 Plates …..
> well    42 actually, as 8 have just dropped off
>
>
>
> Nick Dumpty
>
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