[cma-l] Joint PRS/PPL licences

Thu Jun 30 14:59:32 BST 2016

We have been having our own little campaign on this, as sadly I almost lost
the will to live trying to rally ‘some’ of our members round to at least
‘’avin-a-go’’

We/I have never filled a report in, as our report is ‘’nothing to report,
mind your own business’’      and yes, that was written. I don’t have time
nor inclination or the will to be going through lengthy reports on barter
deals and contra deals with the local milkman nor having the same old
tiresome argument regarding ‘net broadcasting’  

Most of my time is taken up writing to the message board    LOL       

Our net is zero, zilch, nowt, not a sausage, diddly squat, we are not for
profit, and the ‘’’revenue’’’ we do raise is spent back on the project to
keep it going. We are not cash Cows.

I have already informed the organisations, the CMA and Uncle Tom Cobbly on
our stance.

I have suggested £2000 pounds for the lot ! as a top figure. When I say the
lot, this includes both FM and Internet and ALL on one licence, including
D.A.B.     if we get it !    That is what you call a proper [One stop shop]
reading the licence letters, it looks more like a half way house stop and
not a one stop shop, so either I have lost the plot or someone at their end
is reading the wrong script.

There has been movement but I am concerned  the actual real terms are that
we have just had a tinker around the edges again, but it looks good.

We have a S/O set up and we pay the minimum fee. On the reporting we have
nothing to report. There has never been anything to report.

There should never have been a minimum fee negotiated from the outset, it
should have been a FIXED Fee 
. I said this 10 years ago, 9 years ago,
8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1   etc. Once again, no one listened and we ended up with yet
another complete horlicks.

So, to conclude, our suggestion is Two grand absolute tops (and that’s us
being very generous) – for everything 
. All on one licence, no reporting
apart from how many tracks you play per-hour. There’s all this
correspondence flying around and yet I haven’t seen any figures. Has someone
left the back door open again ????  and/or are we going to sleepwalk into
another nightmare ?

I have asked the CMA not to sign anything on our behalf regarding this as I
believe we need to be in for and pound and in for a penny (pardon the pun)

Anyone in any doubt now as where I am coming from, to put it bluntly, this
is what you call a Plan B. Plan B’s can be difficult and challenging, but
after 14 years of nodding Dog Plan A people can sometimes end up throwing
caution to the wind. We did that a long time ago.

Do the CMA know the figures please ??               and could we reword it
to FIXED Fee and not Minimum Fee, this way all the nonsense regarding a
contra deal with the local Rag and Bone Man becomes irrelevant.

On a final note just for the record, you know my opinion on PRS/PPL etc etc
they should be paying us, not us paying them, or at least call it a draw.

With reference to Glyns mention of           ‘’ought to be challenged’’
do we actually know what a challenge is ???    to do it properly you need
full support, full backing and a mandate and folk have to get up off their
backsides. Mandates come from Conference.

Alex has just written    ‘’we have been fighting it for ages’’   ???????
I don’t think we could fight our way out of a wet paper bag. There’s 248 of
us, you would think we could cease from being weak and at least put up a bit
of a handbags at ten paces..

Onwards and Upwards

Sir H Dumpty

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Subject: Re: [cma-l] Joint PRS/PPL licences

In my opinion the £600-£700 minimum fee is questionable and ought to be
challenged for them to justify why their admin costs are so high.

Ideally the fee ought to be wholly dependent on revenue -> no revenue, no
fee.

Glyn

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On 30 June 2016 at 11:54, Alex Gray, Two Lochs Radio <tlr at gairloch.co.uk>
wrote:

We received an interesting letter today from PPL giving notice of
termination of our current licence on 31 Dec because they are proposing to
come up with a joint PPL/PRS licence for community radio from that date.

This should make things easier for everyone and reduce the admin burden,
which is good news, and I guess will be generally welcomed.

The letter says PPL and PRS will be consulting with the sector over the plan
- I would urge CMA and anyone else able to respond to press for the new
minimum fee to be no more than the present minimum fee of either one of the
two bodies.

It seems to me if the new system will reduce their admin costs, there should
be no need for more than the equivalent of one current minimum fee to cover
that, especially as no doubt nowadays more of the admin is done at low cost
by IT than it used to be, rather than an army of clerks.

Alex

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