[cma-l] PPL / PRS for Music mini consultation

[Paul Golder]

> Interesting point "airplay to its unsigned members" presumably non PPL in
any case,

By saying this I meant that CR gives airplay to PRS/PPL members who don't
have the machine of major labels, etc behind them.  "Unsigned" was used by
me rather casually there.

We regularly get "unsigned" or self-signed/self-publishing artists give us
their PRS numbers - and these are the kind of people I'm talking about.
Commercial radio, as we know, won't touch most of them for airplay.
cheers
Paul




On 12 February 2016 at 09:15, Tony Bailey <ravensound at pilgrimsound.co.uk>
wrote:

> Interesting point "airplay to its unsigned members" presumably non PPL in
> any case, however, something comes to mind here, what about the old BBC
> "needle time" agreement?  I think it allowed free airplay to new releases.
> Maybe a similar arrangement could be negotiated to offset some of the
> charges in exchange for new entrant airtime?
>
> Tony Bailey
>
> On 12/02/16 08:45, Murray Dawson wrote:
>
> I fully support your proposal Paul.
>
> First task is to make this the policy for the CMA so that it is the
> position of the sector - Bill can you explain what the process is to
> discuss this at Council and what the process is?
>
> Thanks
>
> Murray
>
> On 12 February 2016 08:10:49 GMT+00:00, Paul Golder <paul at pvg.co.uk>
> <paul at pvg.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > Put bluntly, PPL doesn’t owe your station a living. Does the
>> electricity company give you free electricity just because you are
>> non-profit, or the phone company, or… of course not, which is why it costs
>> £30-50k to run the smallest of full-time stations.
>>
>> No one owes us a living, but whereas I doubt the electricity company are
>> getting any benefit from us using their product, PPL's members probably see
>> us as a bit more useful.
>>
>> PRS and PPL are always talking about what good they do for the music
>> community ... perhaps they can be persuaded to give up that 0.02% of their
>> income by supporting a tier of radio that gives airplay to its unsigned
>> members looking to get a step up.
>>
>> Keeping to the point .. we've got a rare opportunity to renegotiate these
>> contracts in our favour, so let's ask for free and see where we meet in the
>> middle.
>>
>> Paul
>> Phoenix FM
>>
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