[cma-l] Ofcom Consultation reponses
Cannock Chase Radio
office at cannockradio.com
Sat Dec 31 10:06:40 GMT 2016
Perhaps we are in there thoughts Ian
The Troublesome Two
Jane Hughes
Director Cannock Chase Radio
01543 622556
07852 462888
On 30 Dec 2016 20:40, "Ian Hickling" <transplanfm at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Just looking at the published list:
>
> https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consultations-and-statements/
> category-2/cr-future-licensing
>
> there are only 7 responses from the 240 stations currently on air.
> Those from Gateway 97,8 and Cambridge 105 (both on air) and Cannock Chase
> Radio (not yet allowed to apply)have been entered twice.
> What's happening there?
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> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk <cma-l-bounces at mailman.
> commedia.org.uk> on behalf of Neil Munday <neilm at susyradio.com>
> *Sent:* 30 December 2016 14:36
> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List;
> office at thethread.org.uk
> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] FW: Ofcom extends Susy Radio's licence until 2022
>
> As I said call me - we can have a quiet convo and I will explain a few
> things particular to us. I can't comment on your coverage area when I don't
> know the lee of the land! What I will say is what's asked for , what is and
> what's actual are completely different things.
>
> Regards
> Neil
>
> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 at 12:18, Canalside's The Thread <
> office at thethread.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Canalside's The Thread [mailto:office at thethread.org.uk]
>> *Sent:* 30 December 2016 11:56
>> *To:* 'Canalside's The Thread' <office at thethread.org.uk>
>> *Subject:* RE: [cma-l] Ofcom extends Susy Radio's licence until 2022
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil et al
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s not a scream, it is as always with moi an observation to facts. The
>> fact (s) being that either the rules are 5km or they are not. For some
>> their hats have been nailed on, for others there has been flexibility and
>> for others it appears as if there has been a free-for-all.
>>
>> Knowing all the problems (dare I say ongoing problems) you would have
>> thought a simple explanation could have been given as to what process and
>> what rules we are working to.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why doesn’t anyone listen to the facts ? the facts are we were told
>> this was a rule --- others have said it isn’t a rule it is an advisory,
>> others have said it now doesn’t exist and is what you put down on your
>> application. Too late of course for the rookies who had their original
>> dabble over ten years ago.
>>
>> The official folk on this matter ie:- Mr and Mrs Ofcom state it is a
>> rule ………… well that’s gone bon voyage and straight out the window when you
>> look at what is going on ……………. Hence confusion abound.
>>
>>
>>
>> For example :- if it is a nailed down, no questions asked 5km ruling,
>> then we may as well all go home and chuck all the kit on the fire and throw
>> the towel in as we will never be able to survive. It is clear common sense
>> (there’s that word again) that we rely a little bit on luck in the fact
>> that our transmitters ‘bleed-out’ slightly for another 2 or 3km so that we
>> can at least hook in a few just outside the official area.
>>
>> Our problem of course is that where we (Canalside) are based you have to
>> travel at least 1 and half miles N / S / E / W before you reach people
>> again outside of Bollington or else all we are broadcasting to are sheep
>> and cows ………………. This has been explained a hundred times, but to no avail.
>>
>>
>>
>> You (Neil) mentions topography etc etc once again we have
>> missed the point ……………. Either we operate to a 5km system or we don’t. The
>> moment Ofcom/DCMS start shuffling things around and giving lee-way to some
>> who are down a ditch or behind a tree then what’s good for the goose is
>> good for the gander kicks into gear.
>>
>> The whole thing is a cock-up ……………….. however, the ‘’’cock-up’’’ can
>> easily be rectified if people are permitted to discuss and then tweak what
>> is necessary so that a Community Radio Station can cover the Community it
>> is meant to be serving.
>>
>> Common sense (there’s that word yet again) is then applied once more so
>> that ‘some’ Stations don’t start getting carried away with themselves
>> bearing in mind that we are LOCAL Radio and not REGIONAL Radio. You don’t
>> have to be an expert to work this out. Some people of course would like to
>> split hairs on this matter in order to put a pointless case forward or to
>> get what they want. They may fool some people but they certainly don’t fool
>> me and never have.
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s very similar to the discussion I had with Martin re:-
>> restrictions. We simply lift all the restrictions and let
>> everyone ‘’’get-on-with-it’’’ if all of a sudden Station ‘A’ that has
>> been operating on £55,000 per-annum suddenly goes up to £130,000 per-annum
>> with 6 of the Trustees Holidaying in the Maldives for 8 weeks then the
>> alarm bells start ringing. Hence why I have always said ‘’regulate the
>> SPEND’’ and not the earn’
>>
>>
>>
>> Not difficult, but made difficult by people who want it to be difficult.
>>
>>
>>
>> That leads me finally onto Davids observation regarding the
>> ‘’’consultation’’’ I think the reason why there’s only 14 Stations
>> as opposed to 250 commenting is because everyone has malaise and has
>> basically ‘given up’
>>
>> My personal feelings on all these matters have been expressed via message
>> boards, via consultations, via meetings with CMA / Ofcom / DCMS /
>> Politicians ……….. the problem is if you are dealing with people who simply
>> won’t play ball you are always going to be up against it.
>>
>>
>>
>> The only option we have is to soldier on and do something yourself ----
>> in various quarters I/We have done this --- it would of course be more
>> effective if we actually did something about it as a group instead of
>> having consultations.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have over the years taken a good long hard look at myself and my
>> observations … I have done it to try and make myself back off and convince
>> myself that actually I am totally wrong and that all the rules and
>> regulations and processes are correct. I have searched in every nook and
>> cranny and sadly I actually don’t think I am wrong --- I actually think I
>> am spot on and that’s why I don’t shut up. I would not be doing our
>> fraternity justice if I did roll over and died.
>>
>>
>>
>> So to conclude I don’t scream nor do I rant, I merely make
>> forthright observations that looking Back over the years 9 times out of 10
>> are correct --- I just wish someone would take the Bull by the Horns and
>> sort it all out ….. then tell me that I was wrong …… sadly they won’t be
>> able to.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have even done the ultimate bit ‘’put the money where the mouth
>> is’’ let’s do it the way I have suggested, give it a try, if it
>> doesn’t work (which it only won’t work if it is not regulated correctly)
>> and see what happens.
>>
>>
>>
>> Happy New Year everyone onwards and upwards to Dumptyland
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Neil Munday [mailto:neilm at susyradio.com <neilm at susyradio.com>]
>> *Sent:* 30 December 2016 10:20
>> *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List <
>> cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>; office at thethread.org.uk
>> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Ofcom extends Susy Radio's licence until 2022
>>
>>
>>
>> Rather than scream about it on here if you would like a conversation I
>> will explain our restrictions and our topography which cause this against
>> our official coverage area if which some we don't cover effectively.
>>
>>
>>
>> Call me 07767767689
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil Munday
>>
>> Operations Director
>>
>> Susy Radio 103.4
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 at 10:17, Canalside's The Thread <
>> office at thethread.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Reigate, Redhill, Horley, Crawley, Gatwick ??? Good Lord !
>> that’s the largest 5km I’ve ever seen in my life !
>>
>>
>>
>> If someone could explain this process (as in from the outset) I would be
>> very grateful.
>>
>> I know we have been here before with this discussion, but along with
>> other issues you can see surely why people get frustrated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Owing to restrictions we (Canalside) are OFFICIALLY on 5km ----- and NO
>> !! we didn’t ask for it, we were led up a garden path which clearly was
>> wrong. All we are asking for is a small ‘tweak’ because the rules have now
>> changed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is anyone asking the necessary questions in the correct places ? or are
>> we just drifting along aimlessly ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Please please explain to me why some have 5km and some have 10km and some
>> have 15km and the answer dare not be ‘’Because they asked
>> for it’’ as far as I am aware everyone asked originally
>> to ‘cover’ their Community we certainly did but were told ‘’you’re
>> not allowed because????’’
>>
>>
>>
>> And the circus continues with everyone operating under different rules ??
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s bonkers ! these so called restrictions
>> have got a hell of lot to answer for along with the clots that dreamt them
>> up in the first place
>>
>>
>>
>> Well done though to Susy on the extension to the licence
>>
>>
>>
>> Onwards and Upwards for 2017
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:
>> cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *CMA-L
>> *Sent:* 23 December 2016 11:58
>> *To:* cma-l at commedia.org.uk
>>
>>
>> *Subject:* [cma-l] Ofcom extends Susy Radio's licence until 2022
>>
>>
>>
>> Susy Radio is pleased to announce that the station's licence has been
>> officially extended for another 5 years until 2022. Susy Radio,
>> broadcasting on 103.4FM and online from its studio in Merstham, Surrey,
>> came on air as a fully licensed 24/7 community station in July 2012
>> following many years of occasional broadcasts.
>>
>>
>> Susy's Programme Director Geoff Rogers said "I'm so pleased that Susy
>> Radio is going to be given the opportunity to continue its work as the
>> official local community radio station for East Surrey and North Sussex. We
>> look forward immensely to the new opportunities to work with and serve the
>> community in the next five years."
>>
>> Chairman Alan French noted "This reflects so well on all who have been
>> involved with Susy Radio from its beginning to the present day and made it
>> the great community radio station it has become today. Thank you to all the
>> volunteer staff.”
>>
>>
>> *Further information*
>>
>>
>> Susy Radio 103.4 is the official Community Radio station covering
>> Reigate, Redhill, Horley, Crawley and Gatwick with all places in between.
>> Susy Radio is run entirely by volunteers and has a excellent working
>> relationships with many local community groups, local authorities, other
>> broadcasters and journalists.
>>
>>
>> Susy Radio is funded by a split between grants and donations vs
>> advertising and operates as a "Not for Profit" Limited company.
>>
>>
>> More information:
>>
>>
>> Neil Munday
>> Operations Director
>> Susy Radio 103.4
>> neilm at susyradio.com
>>
>>
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