[cma-l] Ofcom extends Susy Radio's licence until 2022
Neil Munday
neilm at susyradio.com
Sat Dec 31 09:19:10 GMT 2016
Thank you Ian, a better than good application included an extensive
coverage business model. Ours was based on 20 plus years of RSL experience
covering the same area from the same tx site on FM and from a second site
in AM. How we work within the community, what we have and are giving back
to the community etc ...
The business model is not static either it has to evolve as the station
evolves, readjusting the parameters.
Back to coverage
Did you do your calculations correctly
Did you allow for losses in cables
Are you using Vertical and Horizontal transmission (this does not mean two
antenna by the way).
Is your tx site in the best possible place to get max coverage without
being blocked by other hills, mountains etc
Do an assessment. Drive around with the worst car radio you have and
listen.
If not re calculate, re adjust coatings and apply for a change.
Best wishes for the new year.
Neil
Ps
If there is any CR who would like to visit or ask a question then please
do. It has always been our policy to try and assist others if we can. I can
explain the basics but can try and arrange for our transmission engineer
to be available at your visit or find out a more detailed answer if one is
required!
We have given offers of help and or advice to or engineering support to
several CR stations and several pop up RSLs over the years country wide.
N
On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 at 20:39, Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Th "5km radius" was always the example used by Ofcom to give Applicants a
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> As I'm sure I've pointed out before - out of the 303 CR stations licensed,
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> *Subject:* [cma-l] FW: Ofcom extends Susy Radio's licence until 2022
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> *Subject:* RE: [cma-l] Ofcom extends Susy Radio's licence until 2022
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> It’s not a scream, it is as always with moi an observation to facts. The
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> Radio. You don’t have to be an expert to work this out. Some people of
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> *From:* Neil Munday [mailto:neilm at susyradio.com <neilm at susyradio.com>]
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> *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] Ofcom extends Susy Radio's licence until 2022
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> Rather than scream about it on here if you would like a conversation I
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> Reigate, Redhill, Horley, Crawley, Gatwick ??? Good Lord !
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> Owing to restrictions we (Canalside) are OFFICIALLY on 5km ----- and NO
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> Please please explain to me why some have 5km and some have 10km and some
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> Susy Radio is pleased to announce that the station's licence has been
> officially extended for another 5 years until 2022. Susy Radio,
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> its studio in Merstham, Surrey, came on air as a fully licensed 24/7
> community station in July 2012 following many years of occasional
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> Susy's Programme Director Geoff Rogers said "I'm so pleased that Susy
> Radio is going to be given the opportunity to continue its work as the
> official local community radio station for East Surrey and North Sussex. We
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> Chairman Alan French noted "This reflects so well on all who have been
> involved with Susy Radio from its beginning to the present day and made it
> the great community radio station it has become today. Thank you to all the
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> Susy Radio 103.4 is the official Community Radio station covering Reigate,
> Redhill, Horley, Crawley and Gatwick with all places in between. Susy Radio
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