[cma-l] AMCR
Tony Bailey
ravensound at pilgrimsound.co.uk
Mon Sep 14 19:53:32 BST 2015
Reading this thread may explain why none of the last London tranche AM
licensees (new not existing) got on the air. There are a number of
LRSLs around the country on AM although of course they only have to
radiate 1 Watt. Maybe it's a job for the SDR black box brigade to take
on now that they've finished playing with DAB? DRM anyone?
Regards, Tony Bailey
On 14/09/15 15:11, Ian Hickling wrote:
> Hi Shankar
> The point I am making is that in awarding an AM Community Radio
> Licence, Ofcom should as a matter if conscience and indeed good
> business practice make sure that the Licensee is fully aware of the
> additional costs and hazards over and above those known and
> anticipated for the much simpler and better-publicised FM platform.
> These are, I suggest:
>
> * Few installation companies
> * Few experts with suitable knowledge and experience
> * Poor listener acceptability
> * Poor licensing record - only 5 out of a total of 274 UK awards
> * Low receiver availability
> * Lower audio quality
> * Subject to overseas interference outside daylight hours
> * Unpredictable coverage
> * Very large and expensive antenna
> * Requirement for specific site size and features
> * Low availability of UK-produced transmitters
> * Low availability of suitable Aerial Tuning Units.
> * Higher price for transmitters and ancilliaries
> * Uncertainty as to CE-marking of imported equipment
>
> Do I need to go on?
> Please - somebody correct me if you disagree?
>
> *Ian Hickling*
> Partner
>
> <http://www.transplanuk.com/>
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> From: shankar.meembat at exaget.com
> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 13:58:45 +0100
> To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Confession
>
> I am an outsider to this process with no experience in this area, so
> pardon the naivety.
>
> "If Ofcom accepts that you have shown without reasonable doubt that
> you can provide an efficient transmission system and you have the
> funds to achieve that' - seems to indicate that the application
> process requires that the costing is already estimated prior to
> submitting the application and submitted as part of the process ?
>
> What then causes the variation ? Ofcom awarding different transmission
> (AM instead of FM applied for) or changing some other conditions
> during the licence award ?
>
> Shankar
>
>
>
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> On 14 Sep 2015, at 13:43, Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com
> <mailto:transplanfm at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>
> This is the crux
> Ofcom awards a Licence based on what you say you can do in your
> Application.
> If Ofcom accepts that you have shown without reasonable doubt that
> you can provide an efficient transmission system and you have the
> funds to achieve that and you fail - then it's your responsibility.
> But - and it is a real but - how much contribution does Ofcom make
> towards your awareness of the hard facts?
> If it doesn't do that effectively and you fail - whose
> responsibility is that?
>
> *Ian Hickling*
> Partner
>
> <http://www.transplanuk.com/>
> /Office: 01635 578435 (7am-11pm UK time)/
> /Carphone: 07530 980115 (only responds when driving)/
> /6 Horn Street, Compton, NEWBURY, RG20 6QS/
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>
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> From:richodr at blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:richodr at blueyonder.co.uk>
> To:cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> <mailto:cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:46:33 +0100
> CC:stevejones42 at talktalk.net <mailto:stevejones42 at talktalk.net>
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] Confession
>
> Hi Ian
>
> I think this is the first post to CMA Forum.
>
> YMCA Radio Barnsley was successful in July 2014 in gaining an AM
> licence.
>
> In July 2015 we had to hand back the licence.
>
> The cost for getting on air £100k! (mast/equipment/field
> rent/porta cabin/fencing/security/studio link/insurance/yearly
> mast inspection and power supply to a field). Never mind 5 years
> on costs!
>
> The lottery after checking our application for funds said that
> looking at other bids of a similar nature; we would not meet our
> outcomes!
>
> So we had to hand it back. We tried but it was unrealistic.
>
> Now then, "how's small scale doing" ?
>
> Dave Richardson
> YMCA Radio Barnsley.
>
> *From:*cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> <mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk>[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk]*On
> Behalf Of*Ian Hickling
> *Sent:*14 September 2015 11:47
> *To:*cma-l
> *Subject:*[cma-l] Confession
>
> I've just had to do something I really hate - admit failure.
> This morning I've written to a sincere hard-working young man in
> Bradford to tell him that we can't offer him a feasible AM
> transmission system so he can comply with his hard-won Community
> Radio Licence.
> Not just us - but it's a joint decision including advice from
> another Ofcom transmission provision company and also from our AM
> specialist friends at the BBC.
> I've copied in several relevant people at Ofcom too so that are
> aware of the real difficulties that trying to put in an AM system
> where they say there is no FM can bring.
> Two weeks ago I sent them what I believe is a fair and honest
> price comparison produced in good faith for a potential CR
> Applicant on the outskirts of London that showed AM costing over
> five times that of an equivalent-performance FM system.
> This isn't some form of organised aggressive anti-AM campaign -
> I'm just trying to get the fairest deal for our Clients and for
> Community Radio as a whole.
> *Ian Hickling*
> Partner
>
> <http://www.transplanuk.com/>
> /Office: 01635 578435 (7am-11pm UK time)/
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