[cma-l] Westminster debate on the 'Process for FM radioapplications'
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Thu Sep 10 15:49:41 BST 2015
Dear All
I had a meeting at Riverside House yesterday . ... I was with Mr Ofcom for
an hour over one or two minor issues (by the way)(we are not in trouble)
looking out through the glass towards St Pauls we put the radio World to
rights ...I would say the outcome of the meeting was 50/50 .... which is
actually quite good . all will be revealed soon
We discussed '''the debate''' for 5 minutes or so where I simply pointed
out that it all (in my opinion) ran true to form -------
Everyone is getting over excited .....the process for all of this is very
simple and straightforward . why can't folk grasp it ? :-)
This is what happens .. please make a note :-
1) Something is instigated via an observation / or complaint
2) Correspondence goes back and forth for approximately 9 months
3) There is a proper discussion / debate either via the individuals
who are immediately affected and/or on a bigger scale via letters from local
MP's to the Secretary of State. Another 6 month pass by. Th3e person who
made the original observation is no longer at the Radio Station for a number
of reasons :- they retired, they moved on, they simply lost the will to live
:-)
4) The Secretary of State [in fairness to Ed] always gets back to
people and is quite pro-active and polite I'm not convinced though
that the secretary of state and Ofcom are singing from the same hymn sheet
5) Number five is where it all starts going off-piste
because :-
We / They / He / She asks a question, makes an observation / complaint /
points out something isn't quite right ie:- 1 + 1 = 3
THEN = The Secretary of State comes back and tells us everything we already
know ????? basically it is the same speech that was used lat time and the
time before that how I see it is ,,,,,,, he's just done it
again ! sprinkle it with a few ''no's'' and hey presto. We're
back to this age old ''no you can't do that'' ''no, that can't be done''
''that's not permitted'' ''we can't do that because'' but actually
the 'BECAUSE' actually holds no water, as in most instances those saying
no can actually be proved wrong.
Most of the things that we are each talking about is as simple as someone
walking into the office one morning, saying ''YES'' that makes sense
''where's my Pen?'' job done. No one affected, no one harmed, less
aggro for Ofcom, CMA, DCMS.. Us .. people can then get on with what they are
meant to be doing (me included) instead of moaning, complaining, making
observations, message boards, meetings, bureaucracy .... We may have been
able to train another 25 people in that time spent going round in a circle.
Do they have a democratic process to elect the Secretary of State for the
DCMS ? if so, when Ed has done his stint could I suggest we put a
candidate forward please ? I have already worded the chap and he is clued
up now on procedure. He's agreed to give it a go.
Our candidate is now officially the ''Man from Del Monte'' he say
''YES !''
Viva El Hombre del Monte !
:-)
Nick
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Hickling
Sent: 10 September 2015 07:58
To: The Community Media Association Discussion List
Subject: [cma-l] Westminster debate on the 'Process for FM
radioapplications'
Thank the Lord for Hansard!
We briefed Amanda Milling as to the submission - and Ed Vaizey's response in
the most part would have been provided by Ofcom.
I'll be analysing the Minister's response on behalf of Jane and Rob Hughes
at Cannock Radio for the next stage in the action.
Ian Hickling
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From: bill.best at commedia.org.uk
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:32:45 +0100
To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Westminster debate on the 'Process for FM radio
applications'
FM Radio Applications - [Mrs Anne Main in the Chair]
- in Westminster Hall at 4:00 pm on 8th September 2015.
Hansard link:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmhansrd/cm150908/halltext
/150908h0001.htm#150908h0001.htm_spnew37
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On 9 September 2015 at 10:52, Two Lochs Radio <tlr at gairloch.co.uk> wrote:
Here's Radio Today's summary of the Q&A in parliament yesterday:
Ofcom application process challenged by MP
<http://radiotoday.co.uk/2015/09/ofcom-application-process-challenged-by-mp>
Ofcom's region by region procedure to invite applications for community
radio stations is being challenged by an MP.
Amanda Milling MP, Cannock Chase, Conservative, speaking at Westminster Hall
<http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/e0cbce54-fda8-44e7-a5bc-850e5399624b>
, suggested Ofcom could invite applications from stations with special
circumstances at any time along side the current rounds.
She was speaking for Cannock Radio which was created last year after the
regional round for the West Midlands closed.
The MP also mentioned a possible Apply On Demand system but admits this
would take more resources but with a premium fee attached to it to cover any
additional staff which would be required.
In reply, Culture, Communications and Creative Minister Ed Vaizey said he
was a fan of community radio and comments it's one of the tragedies of his
life that his home town doesn't have a station.. and went on to explain the
recent history of community radio regulation.
He did acknowledge the request by the Cannock Chase MP, but said any change
to the system could make the process even slower, referencing previous
rounds where applications were invited from all over the UK at once
resulting in some stations having to wait a long time.
The current round is almost complete, at which point, the Minister said, it
would be a good time for Ofcom to consider alternative procedures. In
addition, he pointed out that DAB is an alternative for Cannock Radio.
Finally, Vaizey revealed Round 4 of community radio licensing will be
announced in 2016.
On 08 September 2015 at 16:59 Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com> wrote:
Watch it here from 16:00:
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/e0cbce54-fda8-44e7-a5bc-850e5399624
b
Ian Hickling
Partner
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Office: 01635 578435 (7am-11pm UK time)
Carphone: 07530 980115 (only responds when driving)
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From: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 14:34:55 +0100
To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
Subject: [cma-l] Westminster debate on the 'Process for FM radio
applications'
There's a debate this afternoon Tuesday 8 September on the application
process for FM radio applications:
http://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/offices/commons/speakers-offi
ce/wadjourns1/
4:00 pm - 4:30 pm Amanda Milling Process for FM radio applications
Amanda Milling MP has championed the attempts of aspirant community radio
station Cannock Radio to get a licence.
http://www.amandamilling.com/news/amanda-milling-mp-speaks-cannock-radio
Watch online here: http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Guide
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