[cma-l] PRS PPL and DAB trials

Gary Jackson gary.jackson at my-generation.org.uk
Wed Jul 22 11:51:35 BST 2015 

Absolutely but as with many things, the people with the money get the law.

The PPL are a law unto themselves simply because they have the financial 
clout. Even a group of community stations would have trouble raising 
sufficient funds to mount a serious challenge. Last time I checked they 
were even run by a lawyer.

I had an interesting conversation with a commercial radio station owner 
in California a couple of years ago. He had heard that the PPL had been 
haranguing American stations for money because their online streams 
could be heard in the UK. Basically the PPL was demanding hundreds if 
not thousands of pounds each year to cover the tiny number of listeners 
that may stumble upon their stream here in the UK.

Of course they did it in the name of those poor exploited musicians 
who's music was being heard and not receiving any royalties. They make 
themselves sound like Guide Dogs for the Blind!

However, as this guy pointed out, the large stations would never play a 
British artist who was so unknown that they wouldn't already be covered 
by the American royalty agencies.

Which means that these stations would have to pay blanket licence fees 
to cover a tiny number of listener hours. Something like a total of £10 
could be passed to perfomers to account for these listeners, and, as has 
already been said draconian reporting as well.

That leaves hundreds if not thousands of £s not passed on to perfomers, 
but included in the licence fee. Where does that go?..........


Gary

On 21/07/2015 20:30, Ian Hickling wrote:
> So isn't it high time for a concerted legal challenge to what are seen 
> as the Royalty sharks?
> Why on earth do otherwise sensible people shell out these exorbitant 
> fees without ever asking exactly why and what for?
>
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> From: tlr at gairloch.co.uk
> To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:37:06 +0100
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] PRS PPL and DAB trials
>
> Well, that will come as no surprise to those who have in the past 
> tried to see rationality in PPL's other fees for small-scale broadcasters.
> But of course, the issue of charges for pilot broadcasts is only a 
> reflection of the situation for long-term broadcasters. PPL charges a 
> lot extra for any form of simulcasting, even though any additional 
> value derived from using its repertoire to increase overall audience 
> is already be reflected in and properly recompensed for by the 
> percentage royalty it levies on Net Broadcasting Revenue.
> In truth, PPL already uses a mechanism of sky-high minimum charges to 
> jack up the royalty charges for very small operators way above the 
> levels settled by the Copyright Tribunal, and by insisting on separate 
> licences for each simulcast medium, each with its own minimum fees, it 
> manipulates the system to boost these levies even further.
> Alex
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* James Cridland <mailto:james at cridland.net>
>     *To:* The Community Media Association Discussion List
>     <mailto:cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, July 21, 2015 4:11 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [cma-l] PRS PPL and DAB trials
>
>     "PPL alone in charging broadcasters for DAB small-scale tests"
>
>     PPL, the body that collects music royalty payments on behalf of
>     record companies, has re-affirmed that it plans to charge existing
>     stations an additional fee to simulcast on a nine-month technical
>     trial of small-scale DAB.
>
>     Ofcom is currently testing small-scale DAB multiplexes in a
>     variety of places in the UK, designed to discover whether the
>     technology is suitable for community radio broadcasters. It has
>     waived any licence fee for the tests, which are planned to take
>     nine months. The tests are technical pilots for small local
>     services that may become permanent in future....
>
>     Read the rest of the story at...
>     https://media.info/radio/news/ppl-alone-in-charging-broadcasters-for-dab-small-scale-tests
>
>     You might wish to comment on the story on the website...
>
>     //j
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