[cma-l] Community Radio Order

Wed Jan 21 12:49:10 GMT 2015

> Given community radio reaches 10 million people a week

Do you have a source for this, Alan?

RAJAR's "other radio" line, which should contain all non-subscribers to
RAJAR, says 3.8m/week, of which community radio would be alongside pirate,
internet and "not radio but calls itself radio".

//j

On Wed Jan 21 2015 at 12:20:12 PM Phil Edmonds <lists at philedmonds.info>
wrote:

> The main two points to summarise the many dozens of messages that have
> been coming back and forth over past few days:
>
> 1 - To run a community radio station top of the list needs to be a paid
> 'Station Manager' of some description.
>
> 2 - Most community radio stations are so strapped for cash that this is
> difficult to achieve. A significant majority have an hard time covering
> 'core costs' never mind any development work.
>
>
> So what in my view what does "the announcement" need to address? All
> links to my overarching issue "financing the sector".
>
> 1 - Licence renewal process.
> We're now only months away from the "first batch" of stations current
> licences expiring with no renewal process in place. What chance has any
> one got of getting anywhere near a sustainable business plan if they
> don't know if they'll still have a licence?
>
>
> 2 - Removal of on-air advertising restrictions for stations overlapping
> small commercial radio stations.
> The turnover of a community radio station is so small as to have no
> meaningful impact on a "small commercial licence" holders business. A
> decade down the road from the original ruling a commercial station's
> real competitor on a local scale is Google and Facebook advertising. At
> least a community radio station can help keep the money in the local
> economy, not to some off-shore multi-national.
>
>
> 3 - Community Radio Fund.
> Everyone thinks it's too small. If it's aim is to help towards core
> costs or building sustainability in the sector it's clearly not working
> as effectively as it could. Perhaps it would be better if a chunk of the
> funds were just directed towards Ofcom to subsidise Community Radio
> Ofcom licence fees? Even extending this to the music licensing bodies -
> sector wide blanket licences at zero cost to stations sounds good.
>
>
> 4 - 50% advertising and sponsorship rule.
> I'd propose that this isn't as pressing a worry as some think. A
> diversity of funding sources I think helps protect the qualities of a
> community radio station. Once you've claimed for volunteer time, it's
> actually a 66% rule in 'cash terms' - and possibly an even higher
> percentage if you've any support "in kind" you can claim for on your
> Ofcom return.
>
>
> Phil.
>
>
>
> On 20/01/2015 20:28, Canalside's The Thread wrote:
> > Here's a few Dom :- from Mr Wright in Bangingheadagainstwallshire
> >
> > 1)Why have successive Governments and Ministers pandered to commercial
> > radio whilst neglecting community radio ?
> >
> > 2)Why have we still got restrictions after 12 years ?
> >
> > 3)Have the requests that we have been asking for the last 6 years been
> > implemented ?
> >
> > 4)On Thursday will you be making a speech telling us everything we
> > already know ? or are there serious beneficial changes for us      will
> > bureaucracy and reporting be reduced ?
> >
> > 5)Do you think that some Community Radio Stations deserve a gold clock
> > for managing to stay afloat whilst still achieving their key commitments
> > ?  under the clouds of restrictions
> >
> > 6)Will there be a little more money going in the Community Radio Pot ?
> > as we have gotten the same amount that was in 10 years ago with more
> > Stations on-air
> >
> > 7)Re:- restrictions ..... if they do stay in some way shape or form how
> > come 4 major on-air Stations have had to operate with NO ON-AIR
> > Advertising at all and by the way you are not allowed to use the small
> > ILR argument or the less than 150,000 argument as neither are relevant
> > and neither are true. The Stations are mainly part of bigger groups
> > which lifts them above the 150,000 anyway
> >
> > 8)Are we to start limbering up ready for the announcement (ie:- putting
> > our deep heat on) as in are we going to have nice little smiles on our
> > faces afterwards or is it going to be a damp squib ?
> >
> > 9)Do you seriously think there will be a falling over of commercial
> > Stations if restrictions are lifted ? because I don't.
> >
> > 10)How are things in the DCMS ?
> >
> > 11)Would you like a cup of tea and a Hob Knob ?
> >
> > 12)And finally ... all the Stations who have done a wonderful job will
> > they be given first bite of the cherry when / if extensions of licences
> > are offered      which by the way I also think should be the case .... If
> > not, could you tell us why we shouldn't then all pack up now and go home
> ?
> >
> > It's a good job I'm not interviewing him, we'd get to about number 5 and
> > then he'd walk out after 10 minutes
> >
> > I think it sums things up to be honest when a Bill that has now turned
> > up 4 years after it should have is now having only 15 minutes laid aside
> > for discussion.
> >
> > All tongue in cheek of course .... Ed's a decent man I know, and Dom will
> > do a good job
> >
> > And well done to all the Community Radio fraternity
> >                         by the way Dom, do you know roughly what is in
> > the Bill or not. The reason I ask is because you will have to have some
> > idea so that you know what you are asking him ..... if this is true, then
> > my questions do not need to be asked as you will be on a '''positive'''
> > footing ..... if you do not know what is in the document, then sadly my
> > questions are relevant and you good have an argument / debate situation
> > on your hands. I like to think we have gone past that point now and that
> > my questions are now consigned to the bin ..... apart from the Hon Knob J
> >
> > Nick
> >
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> > *Sent:* 20 January 2015 17:34
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> > *Subject:* [cma-l] Community Radio Order
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> > From: *Dom Chambers* <chair at commedia.org.uk <mailto:
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> >
> > TO CMA members,
> >
> > The Community Radio Order is due to be published on Thursday this week.
> > I will be interviewing  DCMS minister Ed Vaizey on Thursday morning.
> > Time is limited to around 15 minutes for this. I will be conducting the
> > interview on behalf of the CMA and welcome any questions you might like
> > me to consider informing the interview. We will naturally focus on the
> > content and implications of the CRO but this will be an opportunity to
> > also ask about other areas of community media development.
> >
> > Best to all,
> >
> > Dom 1
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