[cma-l] Officialdom

Alan Coote alan.coote at 5digital.co.uk
Thu Feb 5 17:17:37 GMT 2015


I asked Ofcom to explain their scoring process by way of a Freedom of
Information Request.

 

This created quite a bit of excitement in Ofcom and many phone calls. They
were more than happy to talk over the phone but not answer in writing.

 

I have long believed that the process is floored because it is not
repeatable. For example if you send in two averagely good and identical
applications they should arrive at the same result, but it's difficult to
see how this is the case.

 

It's normal in government contracts to know the criteria and scoring scheme
prior to application. Without this Government would open themselves up to
litigation. Ofcom's decision is final, there are no appeals and they are not
transparent. 

 

Most people, I think would find that undemocratic.   

 

Kind Regards

Alan

 

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I think that's an excellent idea. All in the spirit of 'open government'.
One for Dom and Ed to discuss over a slice of cake I feel.

 

David

 

 

On 5 Feb 2015, at 13:57, Ian Hickling <transplanfm at hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Maybe we should formally ask to be shown the procedure - as it has a very
direct effect on Applicants' businesses?


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From: david at theradiopeople.co.uk
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 11:08:49 +0000
To: cma at nnbc.co.uk
CC: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Officialdom

It would be interesting to hear a summary of people's experience on this as
there is no published process.

*	As we all know, the list of applicants is first published followed,
a few days later, by the application documents (once the confidential
sections have been redacted).  
*	We understand the application is broken into various sections and
'farmed out' to specialists in each area. 
*	We can't identify any discernible order that Ofcom use for
prioritising which applications to look at from a region. 
*	If Ofcom has a query regarding anything in your application they
will invariably email you.  Our experience is that their questions are not
worded particularly well (this could be intentional).  So be careful how you
answer them - don't offer more that they are asking or you could dig
yourself into a hole!

In short, that's our experience on behalf of our clients.  Anyone else?

 

David

The Radio People


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On 5 Feb 2015, at 10:07, Terry Doyle <cma at nnbc.co.uk> wrote:

 

Hi All,

 

Can anyone provide me with some information on how those OFCOM process
community licence applications they've received... or is subject to the
Official Secrets Act (shoot me now!) 

 

Just spoke to and 'representative' and boy do they know how to 'answer'
probing questions without 'answering' probing questions. 

 

 

 

Why am I asking this? Oh just curious! 

 

Terry Doyle 

 

NNBC, Northampton

 

 

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