[cma-l] FW: Continued Viablity of Community Radio Stations
Canalside's The Thread
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Mon Nov 17 12:49:14 GMT 2014
Terry et al
Similar suggestion to what I said 3 years ago and the best thing I have
heard Terry in ages. Id go further than an hour silence
. Id run with a
day ! maybe more. Yes, I know the counter arguments (sponsors for
starters, but they could be sounded out beforehand) and of course the
threat from Ofcom that we are not fulfilling our commitments
. Mmm ? well
neither are another 223 !
Im no Arthur Scargill nor do I fancy standing around a camp fire on a
Picket, but sometimes things get so ridiculous and people get backed in
corner they are left with no other options
.. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE
2003 !
Like I have pointed out before, someone did say to me at a meeting a couple
of years ago well you signed up to it, if you dont like dont sign up to
it good point Mr, trouble is you have once again missed the point
completely. I didnt think we would still be arguing about and debating the
same thing 12 years down the line.
I stick to my original thoughts. Its pathetic and completely unacceptable.
Dont forget to put me down on the sweep stakes for the next Community
Station to go belly-up .. how much are the tickets ? Ill have a strip of
ten :-)
Nick
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[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of terry mechan
Sent: 17 November 2014 12:13
To: 'The Community Media Association Discussion List'
Subject: [cma-l] Continued Viablity of Community Radio Stations
Suggest Direct Action
All Community Stations to have an hour of silence or a complete switch off
for the day to protest at the lack of Government support to allow Community
radio Stations to earn enough to keep the stations
viable.
Target Ed Vazey and demand action this day.
The alternative national media would have to cover the story.
www.terrymechan.com
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Subject: [cma-l] FW: Superstation in Orkney ceases broadcasting
Dear All
Yet another one going belly up (t
..up) in our neck of the Woods
.. I
sent an apology via this message board to Mr Vaizey as I had as good as
accused him of not caring. Of course he cares as no doubt others in
authority do and folk in fraternity most certainly do
.. however, I am an
Action man (not literally :-)) and actions speak louder than words.
Its almost as if someone has a fiddle and were doing a Nero
The whole malarkey from the outset has allowed the commercial radio mob to
dictate the situation
completely, totally and utterly wrong in my opinion,
though Im sure everyone knows my strong opinion on all of this.
So, for a quick re-cap :-
1) If the DCMS / Ofcom / CMA / Community Radio Brotherhood / Uncle Tom
Cobbley n all decide that we are going to have this wonderful thing in this
Country called Community Radio with of course all its warts n all
(as that is the charm) then for goodness sake lets get on with it
. We
ought to have done this from the outset.
2) Commercial Radio has absolutely NO BEARING and NO BUSINESS to be even
given a second thought. They look after their sector, and we will look after
ours. They have the option of operating not-for-profit if they wish, no one
is stopping them, or making less money or more money or whatever ? I quite
frankly couldnt give a flying cactus whether they make a fortune or not
it is not my concern nor my business. So why since the outset have they been
poking their ores in the process ? Im sure us charging a couple of
hundred quid a year for a sponsorship is not going to affect them at all, in
fact a Business good run with both as our prices are so low ?
3) They claim commercial viability (I think thats the term?) well,
what about our viability and sustainability
.. if they have an issue with
it, dont we ? I would argue that sat watching 23 Station fall over, the
majority of them to do with lack of funding is a good enough reason to
actually do something about it. Whether we have a Station here or not,
whether I am involved in Radio or not, the end result is that the fraternity
will end up having to do it the way I suggested from the outset anyway - so
why all the dithering around ?
surely better now, sooner rather than later,
before it is toooooo late !?
4) I repeat :- It isnt how we earn the money, it is what we spend it on
that matters. As long as the money goes towards the provision of service
and commitments with a not-for-profit structure, then where is the
problem ? there isnt a problem. The problem has been invented and cooked
up because commercial radio have poked their noses in pot, and worse still,
they been allowed to.
It really has just become a complete debacle, and coming into work again
this morning and reading this just exasperates me even more.
Please bear in mind that this isnt quite as simple as someone not getting
sponsorship
.. a Radio Station could get £50,000 sponsorship and NO Grants
or Public Money support ! if this is the case then they also end up in a
pickle as they dont fulfil the 50% rule. I know the CMA managed to push
through the Volunteer time to off-set against the overall funding
..but
alas ! are we not again just creating more admin, more bureaucracy instead
of doing what we are meant to be doing ? How many hours and days have all
of us spent writing e-mails complaining about all of this ? the meetings ?
the letters ? the phone calls ? not just with each other, but with Local
MPs etc etc it really is pathetic !
Are we actually going to wait for the 23 to become 43, then 93, then 153,
then 193, then 223 .. and then with one left (possibly Swindon) LOL
[well done everyone] and then decide er, hang on a mo something
isnt quite right here
And finally, it is absolutely disgusting and sickening that we still have a
few Stations on the no on-air advertising at all especially when you
see the absolutely Bull that the commercials have come up with ! most of
these Stations are not independent, they are part of conglomerates and
bigger networks but feign that they are small ILRR
..
One absolute final thing :- if anyone wishes to throw in the argument about
commercials not getting grants and we do, then let me remind everyone that
this is a red herring
. THERE ARE NO GRANTS AVAILABLE ANYWHERE FOR
PROVIDING RADIO ! the grants are for providing ventures / training /
accessibility / projects etc THIS HAS NO BEARING IN COMPETING (or
apparently competing) with commercial radio. On the contrary actually
it
soaks up a lot of time and in facts damages our ability to compete as
volunteer and staff time is taken up away from actual Radio output.
What a load of twoddle
.. it has been twoddle from the start, it still is
twoddle, and I shall continue to shout twoddle until it is done and dusted.
Every opportunity I get, whether in Radio or not I shall carry on as I feel
so strong about it.
Commercial Radio has NOTHING to do with Community Radio and should have no
influence at all.
Rant over
Regards
Nick
PS
I await another e-mail next week for another Station going belly-flop
.
Perhaps we could run a sweep or something and place bets ??
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Shame as I sometimes listened online. The Super Station was run from
Manchester I understand.
Kind Regards
Alan
Apparently, it fell off the air at midday today.
http://media.info/radio/news/superstation-orkney-ends-community-radio-broadc
asting
J
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