[cma-l] FW: Offensive language on radio - how to avoid the pitfalls

Office - ccr-fm office at ccr-fm.co.uk
Tue Sep 20 10:08:26 BST 2011 

Good points from Ian ..... in reality though and in Community Radio terms
not entirely feasible when it's ''all - hands - to - the - pumps''

Like I said though, good point.

 

Regards

 

Nick

 

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From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Hickling
Sent: 19 September 2011 23:28
To: Sandra Martin; cma-l; julian at 10radio.org
Subject: [cma-l] Offensive language on radio - how to avoid the pitfalls

 


How to avoid the pitfalls?
Simple.
Don't play it unless you've auditioned it.
The Licensee is totally responsible for the station's output.
Accepting that the odd track can get through is lousy management - sorry!
Ans allowing all and sundry to add to the playlist is utter madness.
There are enough influences out there trying to kill off your station
without adding Self Harming to the list!

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Ian Hickling
Partner
transplan UK


  

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Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 11:57:03 +0100
From: sandra.martin at saintfm.org.uk
To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk; julian at 10radio.org
Subject: Re: [cma-l] Offensive language on radio - how to avoid the pitfalls

Agree entirely with Julian, without someone who's sole responsibility it is
to maintain the music library, be responsible for uploading, editing and
scheduling the music daily the community world is at a disadvantage.  We
have to rely on our volunteers and our training, consequently with the best
will in the world a non radio edit occasionally slips through the net.
 

SANDRA AMEY-MARTIN 
STATION MANAGER 
SAINT FM 94.7 

01621 787829 
07988 986975 
www.saintfm.org.uk 

   
 

On 19 September 2011 at 11:11 Julian Mellor <julian at 10radio.org> wrote: 

This has already raised some issues and concerns for us. 

Underlying it is I think the whole regulatory setup of radio i.e. everyone
plays by the same rules.  In itself there's nothing wrong with that, but
when the rules are written by organisations with professional and paid
capacity, those rules can easily be blind to the challenges that they pose
to organisations running under limited volunteer steam.

At 10Radio we have a huge music library gleaned from our members' and
volunteers' personal collections.  Over the years we have weeded that to
take out the explicits, but the occasional blip does still happen on our
sustaining service (and results in immediate deletion).  We encourage people
to add new tracks and keep the collection alive (and we give them
guidelines), but we don't have the capacity to supervise or double-check
everything that has been added.

Furthermore, we don't insist that people only play from our own music
library, so many bring in their own tracks.  Again, we train presenters so
that they know not to play explicits especially when children are in the
likely audience, but some people may innocently play something that is
deemed offensive (look at the words to almost every Amy Winehouse track!).
A professional station may have the capacity to make sure that that doesn't
happen.  We simply don't.

We have even had an instance where someone with a grudge against us sent in
a request to a new presenter for a particular track.  When it was played
they complained about the explicit references.  Again, we don't have studio
producers weeding out that sort of sabotage.

I know that we have signed up to Ofcom's regulatory framework and that is
fine.  But I would hate to think that this furore about offensive language
ends up with more layers of regulation that we will simply be unable to
implement.  Some commercial stations would probably love to see the back of
the pesky community sector ("they can't meet comply with the code, therefore
they have to go"), but if we are to continue providing the local and
accessible community service which we are committed to then at the meeting
in October the CMA must fight for a realistic approach which accommodates
all sectors of the radio industry, and not just the big boys.

toodlepip

Julian 

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On 19 Sep 2011, at 10:24, Jaqui Devereux wrote:

 

Dear all in radio 

As you will be aware, Ofcom informed broadcasters in a 'Note to
Broadcasters' (in Broadcast Bulletin 188 -
http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/binaries/enforcement/broadcast-
bulletins/obb188/obb188.pdf) of their concern about offensive language in
radio programming.  This concern arose from a number of Findings, published
in Broadcast Bulletin 188, which 
featured offensive language in sound recordings and live music performances
broadcast on radio services, especially those broadcast when children were
particularly likely to be listening. 
We strongly suggest that you read Ofcom's note, and we will be attending a
special meeting in late October called by Ofcom to discuss the issue, we
will feed back the outcomes from the meeting 

Best wishes 

Jaqui 

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Jaqui Devereux 
Director, Community Media Association 
Community Media Association 
http://www.commedia.org.uk <http://www.commedia.org.uk/>  

t: 0114 279 5219 

Canstream Internet Radio & Video 
http://www.canstream.co.uk/ 

http://twitter.com/community_media 
https://www.facebook.com/CommunityMediaAssociation 

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