[cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community radio law

London Chinese Radio admin at londonhuayu.co.uk
Mon Oct 17 12:19:04 BST 2011 

Hi Jacqui,

Thanks, and yes, I know. I wasn't having a go at the CMA there...! (on the
contrary, we would be stuffed without the CMA's help)

However, there is the general perception amongst many people (and
advertisers, despite the fact that advertising is moving away from
traditional broadcasting towards online media, "big time" ) that internet
radio isn't "real radio". This is a perception that needs to be changed,
although it will inevitably change by itself.

My main point is that some sort of provision needs to be made to include
internet media when figuring out the future of radio, including discussions
about DAB, DRM, etc. Not simply out of "fairness" or inclusiveness, but
because that is the way technology is going, so if this is ignored there is
a danger that the "future platform" (if there is to be one) will suffer the
same fate as DAB.


Best regards, and good luck with the meetings!


Peter Vautier
London Chinese Radio



2011/10/17 Jaqui Devereux <jaqui.devereux at commedia.org.uk>

> Hi Peter and all
>
> Let me assure you that the CMA does NOT look down on online stations,
> far from it!
>
> All points raised are good ones,
>
> I will now collate the various responses and put out as a draft agenda
> for the meetings
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jaqui
>
>
>
> 2011/10/17 London Chinese Radio <admin at londonhuayu.co.uk>:
> > My tuppence worth with regard to Alan's point:
> >
> > "3)      Forget that FM will be vacated leaving space for new CR
> stations.
> > This is quite possibly the most dreamy of all the UK radio aspirations -
> > analogue FM is not the future and CR shouldn't be content the eventual
> > wilderness of an FM band.
> >
> > a.      There should be a top level agreement to provide the UK with a
> > Digital Radio 2.0 - (feel free to use that!)
> >
> > b.      Digital Radio 2.0 should include DRM+ and Internet (in time for
> 4G
> > mobile streaming) and an Electronic Programme Guide
> >
> > c.      Develop a 10 year digital radio policy - Sometimes you have to
> dig
> > up an existing road to build a new one. The UK has a tradition of leading
> in
> > communications but now is significantly trailing many western and even
> third
> > world countries."
> >
> >
> > Considering that FM isn't the future of radio, there should be a change
> to
> > the way broadcasting licenses are allocated on the basis of "available
> > frequencies" to the favoured few. The range of broadcasting media has
> > expanded massively in the past 15 years, and the current licensing system
> is
> > now obsolete.
> >
> > Internet stations should no longer be excluded and looked down upon by
> the
> > community media sector, and community stations in turn should be regarded
> > and treated as equal to commercial stations and the BBC. This is the area
> of
> > radio that is showing growth and provides a great deal more variety than
> the
> > homogenised output of large conglomerates.
> >
> >
> > Peter Vautier
> > London Chinese Radio
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Alan Coote <alan.coote at btinternet.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jaqui,
> >>
> >> Here's my top 3;
> >>
> >> 1)      Remove the limit of 5km defining what constitutes a 'community';
> >>
> >> a.      Its arbitrary, unfair and there is no good technical reason for
> >> it.
> >>
> >> b.      We can evidence how this has adversely affected our community
> and
> >> the people and businesses in our area.
> >>
> >> c.      Technically the protection ratios and signal density given to
> >> existing commercial radio and local BBC harks back to the less
> technically
> >> advanced mid 70s so there is room for increase CR coverage without
> >> affecting
> >> existing services
> >>
> >> 2)      Remove the 50% limit on advertising income.  What were they
> >> thinking!? This should have never been in the regulation;
> >>
> >> a.      Limiting income does nothing to define community radio
> >>
> >> b.      It does not protect commercial radio; We can evidence where we
> >> have
> >> created a new market for radio advertising and have subsequently given
> >> commercial radio new clients.
> >>
> >> c.      Existing grants and donations have all be dried up, so making CR
> >> dependant on smaller income is stifling  CR and may even be killing it.
> >>
> >> 3)      Forget that FM will be vacated leaving space for new CR
> stations.
> >> This is quite possibly the most dreamy of all the UK radio aspirations -
> >> analogue FM is not the future and CR shouldn't be content the eventual
> >> wilderness of an FM band.
> >>
> >> a.      There should be a top level agreement to provide the UK with a
> >> Digital Radio 2.0 - (feel free to use that!)
> >>
> >> b.      Digital Radio 2.0 should include DRM+ and Internet (in time for
> 4G
> >> mobile streaming) and an Electronic Programme Guide
> >>
> >> c.      Develop a 10 year digital radio policy - Sometimes you have to
> dig
> >> up an existing road to build a new one. The UK has a tradition of
> leading
> >> in
> >> communications but now is significantly trailing many western and even
> >> third
> >> world countries.
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope that helps
> >> Alan
> >>
> >> Alan Coote
> >> Business Development Director
> >> The Bay Radio
> >> Office 01202 580200
> >> Studio 01202 571028
> >> Mobile 07801 518858
> >>
> >> Email alan.coote at thebayradio.com
> >> Web www.thebayradio.com
> >> The Bay Radio, 25B Elliott Road, Bournemouth, BH11 8LQ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> >> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Jaqui
> Devereux
> >> Sent: 13 October 2011 1:51 PM
> >> To: cma-l
> >> Subject: [cma-l] DCMS consultation meetings on amendments to community
> >> radio
> >> law
> >>
> >> Dear all
> >>
> >> The DCMS will be co-hosting a couple of meetings with us, probably in
> the
> >> New Year, to discuss possible amendments to the law on community radio,
> as
> >> part of the new Communications Bill.
> >>
> >> We are writing to ask your views on what the agenda should cover - we do
> >> have quite a few ideas on what you might want but would prefer you to
> tell
> >> us!
> >>
> >> Almost certainly community radio advertising rules (all of them) will be
> >> on
> >> the agenda, but what other subjects would you like on it?
> >>
> >> Please do let us know,
> >>
> >> Best wishes
> >>
> >> Jaqui
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jaqui Devereux
> >> Director, Community Media Association
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> Jaqui Devereux
> Director, Community Media Association
> Community Media Association
> http://www.commedia.org.uk
>
> t: 0114 279 5219
>
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