[cma-l] CENSUS

Fri Feb 4 13:09:56 GMT 2011

Hi Guys and List,

Given the pitiful amount of money around we are not running any commercial /
or promotion unless there is an associated benefit.  

Alan

Alan Coote

Managing Director 

The Bay Radio

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From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Michael Fryer
Sent: 04 February 2011 10:53 AM
To: shane at eclectic-productions.co.uk; cma-l at commedia.org.uk
Subject: Re: [cma-l] CENSUS

CENSUS

The biggest problem with community radio is that stations do not work
together to achieve payment for promoting issues that Government wishes to
promote to 'hard-to-reach' groups.  The Census is an example of this.  This
is something that CMA should have taken on board and created awareness of a
very long time ago.  It's not difficult to understand that Government
departments will not offer payment for something that they can get for
nothing.  They know that commercial radio and tv have to be paid for
publicising the Census.  They also believe that community radio stations
will do the job for FREE, as they have done in the past.  The only way
things will change is to say NO PAYMENT - NO PUBLICITY!  If the
announcements are classed as public service then all stations can receive
payment for promoting the Census.   People may think this is a hard line to
take, but, if the Government is paying all the other media for coverage then
it is only fair to pay community radio for giving the same, if not better
coverage.  Community radio can reach groups that other media are unable to
reach.  Community radio stations should stand together to achieve the
recognition that they deserve.  It shouldn't take too long for Government
departments to realise what community radio can offer in terms of reach.
But, whilst community radio stations do things like promoting the Census for
free then community radio will continue to be taken advantage of and will
carry on being on the breadline and desperate for funding to exist.

Have a united policy on things like this and stand together.  That way
community radio can achieve great things and achieve better funding. 

So come on CMA get organised and get some funding for Census PSAs.  Time is
running out!

Michael Fryer

Co Durham

> Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:46:16 +0000
> From: shane at eclectic-productions.co.uk
> To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] National Census, Cabinet Office, Written answers and
statements, 17 January 2011
> 
> Dear all, 
> 
> I really got the bit between my teeth on this one. After sending an
> email directly to the Director-General of the ONS (the one below who
> suggested to the House that they are considering using Community Media)
> - I was called from one of their Head Office representatives. 
> 
> When I questioned him (to start with) he said they weren't using radio
> at all, and had a restricted media budget. When pushed, he said they
> would support community media by sending ONS representatives to
> community media to promote the Census. I said the problem isn't with
> guests for content, more the assumption that we'll give them the
> airtime, staff resources etc for free - so essentially we have to pay
> for promoting their campaign. 
> 
> I referred him back to the letter (below) from his Director-General, and
> he said 'oh, yes, we are doing TV and Radio'. He also said that the
> media strategy was only finalised a few days ago. I asked (as many of us
> seem to have experienced the same responses) why ONS Census area
> managers have been saying since December that the media budget had
> already been committed and there was no money left, if it was only
> recently finalised. Also, why was their DG saying they were considering
> using Community Media without consulting the sector, then finalizing a
> media strategy (primarily aimed at the 'easy to count')?
> 
> The reason I've pushed on with this is that I think this kind of
> thinking is detrimental to our sector, and has been allowed to continue
> for so long. It needs to be challenged publicly, and followed up with
> publicity to show our unique effectiveness with our target audiences. 
> 
> I've asked our MP to table a follow up question in the House, hopefully
> that may raise some awareness. I also really think this is the kind of
> thing the CMA should be doing!
> 
> Best, Shane
> 
> p.s. After my last email, I had a number of responses from a number of
> stations saying they'd had similar experiences, but none that said they
> were actively working on the campaigns. Part of the Census HO reps
> argument was that a number of Community media orgs have reacted
> positively to the approach. Is this true? Can you let me know if this is
> the case with you?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of CMA-L
> Sent: 18 January 2011 18:19
> To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
> Subject: [cma-l] National Census, Cabinet Office, Written answers and
> statements, 17 January 2011
> 
> Office for National Statistics (ONS) is considering the use of
> "community media"
> to publicise the England & Wales 2011 Census on 27th March.
> 
> Lyn Brown (West Ham, Labour):
> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> To ask the Minister for the Cabinet Office what steps his Department
> has taken to ensure that the 2011 Census captures accurate population
> data for areas with high levels of (a) ethnic and cultural diversity
> and (b) population change.
> 
> Nick Hurd (Parliamentary Secretary (Civil Society), Cabinet Office;
> Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner, Conservative):
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::
> The information requested falls within the responsibility of the UK
> Statistics Authority. I have asked the authority to reply.
> 
> Letter from Stephen Penneck (Director General, ONS):
> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
> :::::::
> Publicity and community media:
> -----------------------------------------------
> ONS is increasing publicity and communication with a wide range of
> stakeholders and the general public. ONS plans to use different
> methods depending on the audience needing to be targeted. There will
> be a national advertising campaign including TV, press, radio, and
> online advertising as well as billboards, and transport advertising
> (such as tube, bus etc). Publicity will also be tailored to reach many
> target population groups such as black and minority ethnic groups and
> young people. As London has a large concentration of these groups it
> will benefit, in particular, from this approach.
> 
> The publicity campaign will focus on the importance of the census in
> identifying the needs of different communities so that local and
> national government, and other service providers, can deliver what the
> community needs. The campaign puts this principle at the very centre
> of all communication and marketing.
> 
> Hansard source (Citation: HC Deb, 17 January 2011, c533W):
> 
> http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmhansrd/cm110117/text
> /110117w0003.htm#11011724000415
> 
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