[cma-l] FW: Digital Migration

Sat Sep 18 23:32:20 BST 2010

Forwarded on behalf of Ian Hickling

The logical solution is for the major players to migrate to "digital", as
was the original plan, but certainly not Eureka 147 DAB, and probably not
according to the present administrative format.
The actually very large number of channels available on FM - up to around 50
in any location - can then cater for local services.

Simple!

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From: alan.coote at btinternet.com
To: transplanfm at hotmail.com
Subject: RE: [cma-l] DAB Switchover
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:33:11 +0100

The truth is that there will never be enough space on DAB as channel space
is so limited, even more than on FM. The simple economics of supply and
demand mean the costs are kept up and therefore smaller stations out.  By
significantly increasing availability the cost will come down but this is
clearly impossible with DAB and FM. 

Politically, changing systems may be a bitter pill, BUT it's the only
solution for the long term success of broadcast radio in this country. 

Alan 

From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
[mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk] On Behalf Of Ian Hickling
Sent: 16 September 2010 12:02 PM
To: cma-l; martin at martinsteers.co.uk
Subject: Re: [cma-l] DAB Switchover

Martin
To answer your point:

We should be looking into a small DAB transmitter option to cover
towns, and smaller areas to enable non big / super regional stations
to actually migrate onto DAB.. (but not even sure that's possible)

It is totally technically feasible - the equipment already exists - the cost
is comparable with a local FM transmission system - but the licensing
facility simply doesn't exist and the cynic would say that it is unlikely to
as long as the big groups who have paid large sums for muliplexes have a say
in the way the system operates.

Ian Hickling
Partner
transplan UK

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> From: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 10:38:32 +0100
> To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] DAB Switchover
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Martin Steers <martin at martinsteers.co.uk>
> 
> Internet radio is A future not THE future... a multiplicity of
> broadcasting is THE future, with analogue, digital radio, internet and
> what ever the next thing is..
> 
> The economies of scale involved in radio broadcasting over the
> internet just are not feasible in the short or medium term, and
> already the GSM network are starting to cap mobile phone users on data
> usage.
> 
> To answer the DAB pirates question I suppose its technically possible
> but logistically impossible due to technical and costs involved, BUT
> we should be looking into a small DAB transmitter option to cover
> towns, and smaller areas to enable non big / super regional stations
> to actually migrate onto DAB.. (but not even sure that's possible)
> 
> Martin
> 
> Martin Steers
> ________________________________
> From: Phil Korbel <phil.korbel at googlemail.com>
> To: London Chinese Radio <admin at londonhuayu.co.uk>
> Cc: CMA-L <cma-l at commedia.org.uk>
> Sent: Thu, 16 September, 2010 8:39:55
> Subject: Re: [cma-l] DAB Switchover
> 
> The internet will be the future if that's not being too pedantic....
> In other words it will be the best home for community radio once, and
> only once, the digital dvide has been crossed by the listeners that we
> most need to reach - and that sure as #### aint happened yet.  So,
> community radio for the not poor and the not old is fine on the web
> ....
> 
> need I say more....
> 
> bests,
> 
> Phil
> 
> 2010/9/15 London Chinese Radio <admin at londonhuayu.co.uk>
> >
> > I think the "pirates" are already ahead of the wave, on the internet,
which in my mind is unstoppable, and what's more since it's not owned by
anyone, they are no longer outcasts.
> > I really haven't seen anything to convince me that internet is not the
future. And I have been looking.
> >
> > Peter Vautier
> > London Chinese Radio
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Julian Mellor <julian at 10radio.org>
wrote:
> >>
> >> Out of interest, is it possible to be a digital pirate or are these
seas 100% corporate owned?
> >> Aharrgh
> >>
> >>
............................................................................
....
> >> 10Radio: community radio for the 10 parishes
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> >> West St
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> >> JM tel: 01984 623 104
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> >> 10Radio CIC
> >> Registered Office: 1 Croft Cottage, West St, Wiveliscombe, Somerset,
TA4 2JP
> >> Registered in England and Wales Number: 6004252
> >> On 15 Sep 2010, at 01:16, Alan Coote wrote:
> >>
> >> In the Digital Radio Switchover: what is in it for consumers? Consumer
Expert Group report, this statement specifically relating to Community Radio
is extremely worrying.
> >>
> >> "The vast majority of listeners will merely migrate to digital to
listen to the national, regional and large local stations they already
listen to."
> >>
> >> This is why Community Radio MUST have a route to digital.
> >>
> >> What say the CMA?
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan
> >>
> >> Alan Coote
> >> Managing Director
> >> The Bay Radio
> >> Office 01202 580200
> >> Studio 01202 571028
> >> Mobile 07801 518858
> >>
> >> Email alan.coote at thebayradio.com
> >> Web www.thebayradio.com <http://www.thebayradio.com/> 
> >> The Bay Radio, 25B Elliott Road, Bournemouth, BH11 8LQ
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