[cma-l] Advice and comment
Julian Mellor
julian at 10radio.org
Tue Oct 26 17:37:12 BST 2010
Personally I have no problem with the pirates.
I and others set up our community radio station as a means to an end
i.e. building and strengthening community, not being DJs, presenters
or broadcasters. Out in rural Somerset there are no pirate stations,
so we don't feel any competition or sour grapes about them not paying
their way or trampling on our airspace. But when I lived in Bristol
(pre BCFM and Ujima) I listened to the pirates and they were great -
bringing a vitality and edge to what was otherwise Radio Dull, and
helping define the culture of the inner city. And I think the pirates
still do that - they operate outside or on the edge of the system and,
as in any ecosystem, that's where evolution takes place.
I say well done Rinse for what they achieved (and also for coming of
age and crossing over from the other side). And I welcome the
contribution that new pirates make to the radio ecology, even though
they might poo in the wrong place on occasion.
Julian
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On 26 Oct 2010, at 16:53, London Chinese Radio wrote:
> I think the big problem here is something that pirates on the whole
> have created for themselves, and now those that are seeking legal
> licenses (spurred on by Rinse's success) they are going to feel the
> community radio's reaction. Maybe when they were blasting over other
> licensed community radio station's signal they should have thought
> of that...
>
> I also think it's just a bit of publicity spam too, and they won't
> read the reply...
>
> But questions do arise from this:
>
> Are pirate stations joining the CMA?
> Are they genuinely community interest orgs, or are they just using
> community licenses as a back-door to a legal license?
> Is Rinse FM a not-for-profit org? (maybe check their website, or
> their license application) and are all these profit generating
> activities they do going into the org (ie are they also having to
> adhere to the 50% rule or has Ofcom made an exception for them)
> How should the CMA react to a sector that has drawn the ire of so
> many of its members?
> and other questions I am sure...
>
> Also, I think Jennifer's comment needs to be borne in mind all
> along: we can talk about this until the cows come home...
>
> Peter Vautier
> London Chinese Radio
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Richard Hilton <Richard.Hilton at bitc.org.uk
> > wrote:
> Great that people express their opinions but I do think that a
> slightly more positive response might be more helpful.
>
>
> I accept there isn’t a name offered but to claim that makes this
> less credible is pushing it a bit. To me this is clearly a press
> release that would have gone to many outlets including the CMA list.
>
>
> Yes, there may be errors about the licensing process but you try
> writing a press release about the process that holds the reader’s
> attention! So they have taken a bit of poetic licence in a press
> release; they won’t be the first on this list to have done that I
> reckon.
>
>
> The overriding impression I got is that (1) they want to be legal
> (‘In many ways, it is hard to see how Frequency can come back, at
> least in the capacity it was before’) and (2) they desperately need
> help.
>
>
> They seem to be making all the right noises; ‘has always been non-
> profit; all money donated to the station has gone into the running
> of it, ensuring rent is paid’
>
>
> Maybe a little bit of support wouldn’t go amiss here. They are
> clearly at the start of a steep learning curve so let’s harness
> their enthusiasm rather than pour cold water over them?
>
>
> Hopefully they will gleam the useful information in Ian’s post
>
>
> which hopefully they wil
>
>
>
>
>
> From: cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk [mailto:cma-l-bounces at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> ] On Behalf Of Ian Hickling
> Sent: 25 October 2010 22:05
> To: info at radiofrequencyfm.co.uk; cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> Subject: [cma-l] Advice and comment
>
>
>
>
> You don't offer a name, which makes it difficult to claim any kind
> of credibility.
> There are quite a few misconceptions which need correcting.
> Licences don't come every 5 years.
> Ofcom invites applications from time to time and licences that are
> awarded run for 5 years.
> Licences aren't legal or otherwise.
> Either you have a licence or you don't.
> If you don't, regardless of your content, audience or good
> intentions, you're breaking the law and you must expect prosecution
> and heavy fines.
> Despite being pressed for an answer, Ofcom won't explain how Rinse
> obtained a licence.
> The only feasible route would appear to be for persons who had not
> been associated with illegal broadcasting for 5 years or more to
> submit a licence application in the name of the pirate and offer a
> similar genre of music and target audience.
> Ofcom doesn't make licences expensive - and you don't and can't buy
> one.
> The licence fee is £600 per annum.
> Compliance with other requirements such as music royalties which you
> won't have paid previously are what can cost a considerable amount.
> Ofcom isn't praising Rinse for what it has been in the past.
> It has decided that the Applicant had good enough reasons for being
> awarded a licence.
> Ofcom isn't persecuting Frequency by handing out crippling fines.
> It's obeying instruction from Government and doing its duty as a
> Regulator.
> The fines imposed are only to be expected by Frequency's actions and
> you surely know that.
> If you wish to become legitimate you should follow the actions of
> Rinse and you could well be successful.
>
>
>
> From: info at radiofrequencyfm.co.uk
> To: cma-l at mailman.commedia.org.uk
> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 16:44:26 +0100
> Subject: [cma-l] Advice, ideas, comments please. Thanks
>
> For the last 4 years, Radio Frequency in Leeds has been synonymous
> with the underground music movement in Leeds. Crucial in pioneering
> new music, it was instrumental in bringing the now ubiquitous sound
> of Dubstep up North, & has broken in many artists who now command
> international respect. Today, it is home to over 50 DJs playing
> cutting edge music from across the board; whether it’s bass, house,
> garage, drum and bass or hip-hop, no other organisation has devoted
> as much time & energy to the underground cause.
> In return for this hard work, Frequency swiftly became one of the
> most revered institutions in Leeds, and indeed the North, attracting
> thousands of listeners on a daily basis. So – what’s happened?
> It’s been over 6 months since Frequency was last heard on the FM
> dial, and whilst its online presence is still going, many feel its
> glory is fading; the truth, however, is that it is preparing to grow
> and be bigger than ever.
> Turbulent times
> Going back over the last 12 months, Frequency has experienced its
> share of troubles. It’s well known that two key members were
> arrested and taken to court on charges of illegal broadcasting.
> Despite not going to prison, a cumulative £12,000 fine was handed
> down. Frequency has always been non-profit; all money donated to the
> station has gone into the running of it, ensuring rent is paid,
> transmitters are replaced & the broadcast never stops.
> £12,000 then, is not an easy sum of cash to come up with. Emergency
> measures have been taken; the costly FM broadcast has been switched
> off, leaving the radio as a solely online broadcast. Frequency is
> trying to get back on its feet, but with the FM gone the audience
> has dwindled, advertisers will pull out & a number DJs have show
> little loyalty & left entirely. The last few months have been tough.
> Within the circles of Frequency, it would be justified to look back
> at this time as a trial of faith.
> It is perhaps a testament to the tenacity and dedication of the
> people behind the scenes, to the DJs who are still on board and the
> listeners still tuning in, that Frequency is making it through.
> Slowly, we are paying off the fines –
> Two fundraisers in May and June helped, and regular donations from
> supporters are all greatly appreciated. A station run out of
> anything other than dedicated & unconditional love for music might
> have floundered & sunk under the recent pressure.
> That said, the crippling effect these fines have had on the station
> can’t be ignored – there’s a long uphill struggle to win old
> and new audiences, to get people tuning in online and to bring in
> new talent. Furthermore, what happens once the fines are paid off?
> Does it switch the unlicensed FM broadcast back on? If this happens,
> there will be more arrests and more fines, and perhaps a jail term…
> In many ways, it is hard to see how Frequency can come back, at
> least in the capacity it was before.
> Legal licences, Ofcom and Rinse Error! Filename not specified.
> A few months ago, London based pirate station Rinse FM was awarded
> a legal licence, amidst much fanfare and rejoicing from underground
> music fans around the world. After 15 years as a pirate station, it
> is quite an achievement. To many, it would seem the doors are wide
> open for new, underground and urban-leaning stations to pop up all
> over the country.
> Certainly Rinse has all the makings a bonafide music-orientated
> business – it has regular CD releases, sell-out events at Fabric
> and Matter, and boasts a roster of internationally famous
> professional DJs. Yet, it is not legal; its pirate broadcasts
> continues, in breach of Ofcom regulations: its music & ticket sales
> clearly fund the organisation (& in turn, the aforementioned
> broadcast). Whilst Ofcom praises Rinse, it hands Frequency crippling
> fines.
> Ofcom has recently announced there will be more community
> broadcasting licenses being given out in the Leeds area. This
> represents Frequency’s best chance of making good, to put the love
> and dedication & sheer hard work of the last 4 years into creating a
> positive, legal institution. As a community station, it could offer
> workshops for youths in DJing, radio production, broadcasting, sound
> engineering, even promotion & management. The target audience for
> Frequency is 14-30; there is massive scope for a legal station in
> the mould of Frequency to have a positive community influence.
> There are problems though. Ofcom doesn’t make it cheap to buy a
> licence; an annual licence costs tens of thousands of pounds, which
> can be raised through advertising, but Frequency will either need to
> shake its reputation as a pirate station and the negative
> repercussions of the last 12 months, or hire some very good PR
> personnel.
> Furthermore, Frequency needs to be able to manage itself – a legal
> organisation is different from a volunteer led pirate station, it
> will need to secure a professional team to lead it. Existing
> personnel will need to step up, knowing the end rewards are great,
> or there needs to be external volunteers brought in who would become
> employees should it go legal.
> The future…
> The possibility of a legal, urban music station with a youth &
> community-orientated approach is a perfect outcome. Existing
> organisations, such as the Pat Regan Legacy and Unity Day, have
> proven highly successful. The scope for Frequency is even greater
> than these. With a legal license behind us, we will be able to run
> workshops in the city’s schools & colleges, training young people
> in different aspects of radio broadcasting.
> By engaging communities, playing music that is not heard anywhere
> else & presenting it in an approachable manner, we provide a
> valuable voice & outlet for sectors of society overlooked &
> underrepresented by commercialised media, championing the causes and
> needs of youth-orientated inner-city life. We can bring young people
> onboard, giving them a focus for their creativity outside of school.
> Legal licences come every 5 years, and now we have a few at once.
> The time for Frequency to come back is now. Truly, this should be an
> exciting time.
> Radio Frequency needs new volunteers in all departments. If you want
> to get involved and can spare a few hours each week – Frequency
> wants to hear from you. We want DJs, radio hosts, graphic designers,
> teachers, sound engineers, writers, bloggers PR, etc – people who
> want to learn about the music industry, or have knowledge already &
> want to use it for a community cause.
>
> If you want to help with Radio Frequency, either through donating
> towards the fines, volunteering on the station
>
> or you think you can help with the legal licence bid, please visit:
>
> www.radiofrequencyfm.co.uk or email info at radiofrequencyfm.co.uk
>
> - Radio Frequency
>
>
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