[cma-l] BBC RadioPlayer launch announced - and HD Radio too!

[Clive Glover]

I think an important issue to consider is the nature of the EPG (Electronic Programme Guide) for this Player.

Will it have a simple Alphabetical list of stations?
Will it show, say, BBC Radio at the top of the list (as for TV EPGs)?
Will it have categories like "BBC National", BBC Local:, "Commercial (or maybe "independent") radio?
Will it have a Community Radio category?
Will it have England, Wales, Scotland, N Ireland categories?
Will it have English "regional" or county categories?
Will it have programme type categories ("News and Information", Spoken Word", "Pop Music", "Rock Music" etc???

Or, perhaps, a variety of different categories plus a Search facility.....

There is some justification for there being an administrative cost related to categorising any station on the Player, plus adding logos, URLs to our websites etc, but I think that should be a one-off up front charge but perhaps with an extra cost for making subsequent changes.

Clive Glover


On 20 Oct 2010, at 14:52, Tom Buckham wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> Given than services like Canstream can provide at least a basic streaming package for around about £300 per annum I’m a little perplexed as to how a similar figure could be justified, just for ‘placement’ on the Radio Player?
>  
> After all, surely they will just be relaying our own web streams (which we already pay for in most cases), so where is the annual cost (for the BBC) with regards to having each CR station listed?
>  
> There are some obvious benefits at being listed, such as the potential to engage with new audiences, but if the cost is too high the benefits will be outweighed in my opinion.
>  
> In terms of our own views, overall we probably would pay a fee, but given that the average BBC local station operates on budgets 50x greater than the average CR station, I’d be a little resentful and I don’t think the figure should be that high, if at all.
>  
> Tom
>  
>  
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> Subject: Re: [cma-l] BBC RadioPlayer launch announced - and HD Radio too!
>  
> Dear all
> 
> Licensed community radio is part of Radio Player but we are still negotiating with them on the fee to be charged - they will not let our sector be on Radio Player for free.  Figures bandied about are £300 per annum.  We are trying to get them to just charge an initial set up fee, hopefully less than that amount as once you are on there is no particular reason to charge on a ongoing basis.  We are also discussing with them a much smaller fee anyway for RSL holders.  
> 
> We do think Radio Player is a good idea for our sector to be on but I am sure you would agree the price has to be right, given that the median income for the sector is around £69,000 (Ofcom last Annual Report).
> 
> The Player has not actually been launched yet, just the preview at the Radio Festival yesterday.  We will keep you posted re any developments.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jaqui
> 
> Jaqui Devereux
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> 
> On 19 October 2010 18:15, Bill Best <bill.best at commedia.org.uk> wrote:
> Hi Clive
> 
> On 19 October 2010 17:51, Clive Glover <clive.glover at lineone.net> wrote:
> > So the RadioPlayer is coming - but how do we Community stations get on
> > board?
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11578274
> 
> Looks like we're already on board:
> 
> More than 400 national, local and community radio stations are to be
> streamed by a new online radio player, in an initiative involving the
> BBC, Guardian Media Group and Global Radio.
> 
> http://www.journalism.co.uk/news/new-uk-radioplayer-to-stream-over-400-national-and-local-radio-stations/s2/a536580/
> 
> Jaqui will be able to provide further information about this.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Bill
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