[cma-l] quick story to tell fellows

Sat Nov 6 12:53:55 GMT 2010

I agree that the government could do alot more.. however I do feel they are more 
committed than the previous administration, they reaffirmed their digital vision 
early on, BUT made reference to it being a switch over to keep the FM for ILR's 
and Community stations, they have been working with industry to get DAB in all 
new cars within a few years and to make all DAB radios HAVE to have FM (IF that 
happens)...

DAB is part of the future of digital radio, not the only part.. DAB accounts for 
more digital listening than all other digital platforms, and more people listen 
via the telly than the internet... Internet radio isnt the sole future of radio, 
i know loads of "everyday" people with FM and DAB sets.. but the only internet 
radio i have ever known is owned by a real hardcore radio bod..

Stations need to take all opportunities to use every platform, even considering 
using the Radio Player and other platforms (satellite, freeview TV, sky etc)

But what we do need to do (and add to the list) is to lobby for a review of the 
power levels limits etc so that we can cater for communities of interest NOT 
just communities of location..

Martin

Martin Steers
martin at martinsteers.co.uk

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From: mark polden <markianpolden at hotmail.com>
To: jw at 558.net; office at ccr-fm.co.uk; cma-l at commedia.org.uk
Sent: Sat, 6 November, 2010 10:07:21
Subject: Re: [cma-l] quick story to tell fellows

 This again comes down to the idea of community radio or community of special 
interest radio. Joseph and myself clearly represent the latter and we are hoping 
next year when we build our new antenna to do a reappraisal of this (we are on 
MW btw). 

However as purely community stations this is a difficult situation. We are 
currently in a no mans land of digital switchover will it ever happen or not 
(according to the CEG report) and the current status quo seems unlikely to 
change in the forseeable future. The current government has far too many other 
problems on its plate and it being a political hot potato with very little real 
reason/benefit for a kicking. I personally think that in that situation people 
will see over time that DAB is dead in the water and will be overtaken by 
internet radio listenership increasingly in cars.

Where does that leave the community sector, well we carry on as best we can 
although some smaller community stations will fall by the wayside but I would 
encourage those stations with coverage problems to push their internet 
broadcasting instead.

Mark Polden
Flame CCR

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From: jw at 558.net
To: office at ccr-fm.co.uk; cma-l at commedia.org.uk
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 20:22:48 +0000
Subject: Re: [cma-l] quick story to tell fellows

I think the concept of Community according to OFCOM  need to be re-visit. I 
believe the licence system need to take into  consideration of the real need to 
the community. How local is local before it  starts to compete with the 
commercial sector? And is such  competition always a bad things? How about the 
need of the dispersed  community? The current licence system does not service 
communities which are  large in number nationally but not concentrated enough in 
a single geographical  area to apply for a community licence.

Joseph Wu
Spectrum Chinese Programme 
----- Original Message ----- 
>From: Office -    ccr-fm 
>To: 'CMA-L' 
>Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:54    PM
>Subject: [cma-l] quick story to tell    fellows
>
>
>Dear    All
> 
>Any thoughts on the following    chaps ?
> 
>Last night we ran our youth to    youth project again. Young people from the 
>community get involved in learning    radio skills etc etc etc ……………….. we had a 
>gang of cubs last night. There are    16 of them all told.
> 
>They have been coming along on a    Wednesday for the last 6 weeks and they 
>enjoy it. Out of the 16 ………… only 4 of    them are listening to Canalside with 
>some of the others (possibly through    habit and influence from parents) 
>listening to the local commercial station    ………………………… however …… as mentioned 
>last week / pointed out / moaned about yet    again / made to look like a 
>professional complainer which I am not    ------------ 9 out of the group don’t 
>listen because THEY CAN’T    !         some of them live in    Macclesfield, 
>which, as the crow flies is at most 2 miles outside the pathetic    5km limit <> 
>25 watts etc etc ‘’not enough to blow your hat    off’’   I wouldn’t mind, but 
>Bollington is surrounded by 2 miles of    fields N/S/E/W     surely this area 
>cannot be included in    the figures of the 5km ??
> 
>What is the point providing a    fantastic service that is open and accesible to 
>all and yet the basic    fundamental idea of radio is that you listen to it ……. 
>If you can’t access it    because the facility or rules are bobbins then the 
>whole shaaa-bang becomes    pointless …………… flogging dead horses spring to mind. 
>We need help, not    bleedin’ restrictions.
> 
>It irritates, it frustrates and it    angers all the volunteers and crew at 
>Canalside and we appear to be going    around in circles ……….. certainly not 
>making any    progress.
>These guys get involved ……. But    don’t stay involved     ie:- listening, 
>because they can’t    pick it up without hissing and crackling and bloody Key 
>103 coming over the    top of us.
> 
>Key 103 by the way when I asked    ALL the sixteen cubs       ‘’Does anyone know    
>who they    are?’’                  they hadn’t a clue !
> 
>So ------------ the question is    ……………….. why the hell can we not be allowed 
>to defend ourselves in our own    community and why in liaison with Ofcom can we 
>not carefully tweak things so    that EVERYONE is permitted to serve their own 
>audience or potential    audience.
> 
>Beggars belief it really    does
> 
>Sorry to moan again ….. but to us    ….. this is not parliamentary ivory tower 
>debate, this is on the ground level    real life …… wake up and smell the 
>coffee..
> 
>Regards
> 
>Nick
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