[cma-l] Royalty payments

[Karl Hartland]

Very much coming to the same conclusion Ian...has to go either way and 
it won't go the other way judging by all the charity managers doing 
their biscuits about it

K

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Ian Hickling wrote:
 > Financial Segregation
 >
 > With regard to the payment or otherwise of Royalties, I think it's
 > vital that NFPs, CLBGs and Charities must be treated the same way as
 > each other.
 > It's ridiculous to make such a distinction when the aims and effective
 > monetary trading policies are the same.
 >
 > Ian Hickling
 > Partner
 > transplan UK
 >
 > > Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:41:43 +0000
 > > From: hartland.karl at 209radio.co.uk
 > > To: cma-l at commedia.org.uk
 > > Subject: Re: [cma-l] Royalty payments
 > >
 > > I'm just going to chuck about some random thoughts on this....
 > >
 > > I understand the difficulties and burdens on reporting, especially
 > > down to the level of ISRC.
 > >
 > > However, monitoring and reporting will only increase for Community
 > > Media projects in general as tendering, commissioning and
 > > procurement become the norm, forced upon us by Compacts and what I
 > > like to call the 'silent VCS/LSC two prong revolution'. If you know
 > > not of what I speak then you will do soon if you deliver Local
 > > Authority objectives or pull down Learning and Skills Council monies
 > > from any angle....those who don't are already lagging behind, I fear
 > > and will have to catch up very quickly over the next couple of
 > > years..
 > >
 > > Back to music - as Trevor says, quite rightly, smaller broadcasters
 > > and CM in general are already making their power known to musicians
 > > and 'labels' alike.
 > >
 > > So, as this growth continues, is there wisdom in allowing valuable
 > > data to evaporate away? Wouldn't it be great to be able to do some
 > > kind of meta-study that proves the Arctic Monkeys were pulled down
 > > from MySpace into CR station new music programmes and podcasts, who
 > > then reached such a mass that R1 couldn't ignore it?
 > >
 > > Having done a fair bit of reporting for the royalty guys now, I've
 > > actually taken unexpected pleasure in letting them know who it is we
 > > have played. Whether or not those registered musicians will ever see
 > > a penny is an elephant that PPL/PRS etc must acknowledge, address
 > > and make transparent to all but I must admit that I spent no time
 > > whatsoever getting ISRC numbers if they were not available from our
 > > programme's music reporting sheets, which they aren't more often
 > > than not.
 > >
 > > The idea of saying 'we are like 6 Music' turned my stomach - not
 > > that 6 isn't OK, it just seems very weak to me to make that
 > > comparison and you know that someone whose agent can bend ears at
 > > PPL has been paid instead of the local guy you actually played who
 > > has a full-time job and cannot chase such stuff.
 > >
 > > However, I am torn on the issue of payment. Why should charities be
 > > exempt but CR charities (like us) and those who aren't but are
 > > constituted as NFP have to pay?
 > >
 > > That has been nagging me this week.....
 > >
 > > K
 > >
 > > Karl Hartland
 > > 209radio Station Manager
 > >
 > > 105 FM in the Cambridge City Area
 > > http://209radio.co.uk everywhere else!
 > >
 > > Citylife House
 > > Sturton Street
 > > Cambridge
 > > CB1 2QF
 > >
 > > 01223 488418
 > > 07968 898254
 > >
 > > 209radio is a Registered Charity in England, No. 1124610,
 > > and a Company Limited by Guarantee, No. 5585527